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Old June 27 2013, 04:24 AM   #31
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Re: Virtual Tour : USS Enterprise (1701-D) Deck 1-4 (WIP)

Yes, it's still raytraced. Cryengine dreams of global illumination like this. I think, nothing works as precise as pre-calculations like that from udk or frostbite.
CryEngines' dynamic realtime lighting is dynamic and realtime. But generally in a lower/ less precise manner. And CryEngine offers Global Illumination just for the sun light - would be nice if that would be possible for point lights as well some day...
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Old July 1 2013, 03:09 AM   #32
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Old July 1 2013, 07:01 PM   #33
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The modeling work is very clean and looks awesome. I can't wait to start branching off into areas we never saw on the show like deck 2. That short early in the post is such a tease.
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Old July 1 2013, 08:11 PM   #34
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SA-GEN-HAFT! Absolutely impressive and fascinating! (just got my head up from my TOS deck plan drafts)

If you check out FalTorPan's website, there seem to be better detailed bridge blueprints in existence.

And Andrew Probert might still have a few things that could be of help. And he probably might have some good ideas what should go into the unseen areas - after all, he is the father of the Enterprise-D (and unless I'm mistaken favors Ed Whitefire's approach).

Weiter so! Keep up this great work!

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Old July 2 2013, 05:59 PM   #35
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This is truly impressive. And I know that although this is still a WIP, the stark localized lighting is really cool to look at.
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Old July 2 2013, 06:10 PM   #36
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And Andrew Probert might still have a few things that could be of help.
Knowing how thorough he tends to be in his work, he probably even worked out a general idea of how the crew head would be to adapt to the needs of non-human crewmembers.
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Old July 4 2013, 05:40 AM   #37
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Incredibly well done! I hope to see a walkthrough sometime soon off all the stuff you're building!
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Old July 6 2013, 11:17 PM   #38
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SA-GEN-HAFT!
And Andrew Probert might still have a few things that could be of help. And he probably might have some good ideas what should go into the unseen areas - after all, he is the father of the Enterprise-D (and unless I'm mistaken favors Ed Whitefire's approach).

Bob
Of course I would appreciate Proberts, Sternbach, Okudas, Whitfires... (or whoever originally worked on the ship) input on the matter. I've read a lot of interviews, they gave, concerning their ideas about the ship, but those are rare. Though their participation in this thread is rather doubtful.

BTW, .. I follow your thread and Donnies very closely and I am impressed by your devotion, as well. Great stuff!
It's just that I don't have much clue about the TOS age, on that level. Otherwise I already would've congratulated on your stuff!

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little Upadate. I've worked a bit on the ceiling.







Because I came to the conlusion that I started to fake proportions I saw that the bridge is 1.5 meter too short.
The next render perhaps shows that it's too short. Just a meter, but I started to noticed the shortcomings (pun intended). I obviously tricked it away here and there... but it got out of hand. Means I will have to to reconfigure the bridge objects. That's gonna take me some time, but it will be correct by then.

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Old July 6 2013, 11:24 PM   #39
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Knowing how thorough he tends to be in his work, he probably even worked out a general idea of how the crew head would be to adapt to the needs of non-human crewmembers.
I wouldn't be surprised but talking about how he worked out a general idea, here is the one for the Enterprise-D he worked out:



I asked Andrew if I could post the sheet, he said it is okay and also wanted to add a few lines:

"Notice how the deck levels relate to the saucer rim. The reason the decks were placed as they were was to allow for a very thick supporting structure to be incorporated into the base of the saucer rim. You can also see, in the diagram (and call-outs above it) the indication of my Observation Decks."

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Old July 6 2013, 11:34 PM   #40
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Wow! That's awsome! Thank you very much!
Don't know what to admire more. This interesting piece of information, or the speed you posted it with.
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Old July 7 2013, 02:08 AM   #41
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Wow! That's awsome! Thank you very much!
Don't know what to admire more. This interesting piece of information, or the speed you posted it with.
I'm more impressed that he's having a conversation with Andy Probert! Is it that easy to contact him? (I just HAVE to send him my Refit Enterprise Officers Lounge renderings!)

Great work, Lee. Keep it up.
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Old July 7 2013, 03:08 AM   #42
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I'm more impressed that he's having a conversation with Andy Probert! Is it that easy to contact him? (I just HAVE to send him my Refit Enterprise Officers Lounge renderings!)

Great work, Lee. Keep it up.
I probably was too blown away by it to mention the obvious.

But I'd be interested too, if it's easy to contact Andrew Probert, or if he even cares for things like this.
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Old July 7 2013, 05:32 AM   #43
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But I'd be interested too, if it's easy to contact Andrew Probert, or if he even cares for things like this.
He has posted here under the username "Probert". He may not have logged in for a while, though (last activity shows Oct 2012). Maybe if you send him a message you can start a dialog.
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Old July 7 2013, 08:48 PM   #44
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But I'd be interested too, if it's easy to contact Andrew Probert, or if he even cares for things like this.
Well, I sometimes pop my head in on projects like this,... a really spectacular build, by the way. It will be interesting to see what happens when 10-Forward comes into focus... one of Berman's bigger screw-ups.

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Old July 7 2013, 09:07 PM   #45
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SA-GEN-HAFT!
And Andrew Probert might still have a few things that could be of help. And unless I'm mistaken favors Ed Whitefire's approach.

Bob
Of course I would appreciate Probert's, input on the matter. I've read a lot of interviews, ... Though their participation in this thread is rather doubtful.

little Upadate. I've worked a bit on the ceiling.

Because I came to the conlusion that I started to fake proportions...
Okay,... first of all, yes, I'm a fan of Ed Whitefire's plans,... the original Enterprise-D Deck plans, but was not all that happy that he violated the Hull outline, as originally Designed. Still, his background in Structural Engineering is evident throughout.

Second: Remember that the overheads (ceilings) in all the bridge alcoves are made with that white plastic waffle grating (to mimic what was used on the TOS Enterprise),... they just didn't light it right until one of the TNG movies came along.

"Fake proportions"? Don't you have studio blueprints? I have a couple of simple versions that might help (if I can find them).

And, you're right, I rarely stick my nose in unless it's to complement a good effort or help clear up some misinformation... and that's usually only when someone gives me a heads'-up, since I'm so busy most of the time.

Again, this is coming along VERY nicely, Lee.

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