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View Poll Results: Is Hollywood tv and movies facing its end?
Hollywood will always own the tv and film industry 5 41.67%
Competition is good and will force positive changes 8 66.67%
It will struggle but survive 2 16.67%
Demographics, L.A film will fall to a tsunami of never-married foreigners 2 16.67%
Spielberg is right the movie industry is doomed 1 8.33%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 12. You may not vote on this poll

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Old July 6 2013, 08:25 PM   #31
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Re: Do brands like Dora, Dragonball and DoctorWho mark Hollywoods end?

I see that TheMasterOfOrion and I stand alone on this.
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Old July 6 2013, 08:42 PM   #32
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Re: Do brands like Dora, Dragonball and DoctorWho mark Hollywoods end?

That Hollywood is filled with Mexicans and Chinese ruining American movies?
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Old July 6 2013, 08:54 PM   #33
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Kestra wrote: View Post
I see that TheMasterOfOrion and I stand alone on this.
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That Hollywood is filled with Mexicans and Chinese ruining American movies?
The tsunami of never married foreigners. (what ever that means)
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Old July 6 2013, 09:02 PM   #34
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Re: Do brands like Dora, Dragonball and DoctorWho mark Hollywoods end?

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I see that TheMasterOfOrion and I stand alone on this.
so you're agreeing with all his incoherent rascist rambling?

if so,
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Old July 6 2013, 09:51 PM   #35
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Hollywood itself no longer has American people in it, they aren't baby boomers anymore, no families are making US babies. You go there on contract to work and its all Chinese and all Mexican.
So you only like americans.

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you no longer deal with quality American workers and agents, if you're on a contact it feels like your doing business in Mexico city or HongKong
people not from america don't do quality work.

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if people want to stay, work, live and make babies and be American....cool....give them papers but this dilution of quality will only make things worse for the industry
even if they become american, they are still incapable of quality work.

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I have no problem with any foreign person
except all the times you say do.

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What I have said is if you do contract work in Hollywood today, the workers and agents and crew are of lower quality.
repeating yourself a bit now, we get it, only americans can do quality work.

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you have accused me of 'racism' when i have not posted anything racist
except you have. repeatedly. and sadly he won't see this post :

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congrats for your idiotic sarcastic post and welcome to my block list
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I welcome you paranoid politically correct morons to my block list
man this guy really has a hard-on for blockages.

question: if someone quoted this, would he see it?
Yup.

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I see that TheMasterOfOrion and I stand alone on this.
so you're agreeing with all his incoherent rascist rambling?

if so,
I won't presume to speak for Kes, but I suspect she's not agreeing with any of it.
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Old July 6 2013, 09:51 PM   #36
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Re: Do brands like Dora, Dragonball and DoctorWho mark Hollywoods end?

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This is a State that is already bankrupt, printed their own IOU currency and has the rest of the US paying for it.
lol, wut? California contributes to the federal budget far more than it gains from it. Our money troubles have everything to do with Goppers' insistence that nobody, not even business, pay anywhere near fair real estate taxes, despite Californian real estate being some of the world's most desirable.
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Old July 6 2013, 10:10 PM   #37
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Re: Do brands like Dora, Dragonball and DoctorWho mark Hollywoods end?

When did California go bankrupt? Apparently with the current budget, California has a surplus.
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Old July 6 2013, 10:11 PM   #38
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m'sharak, i tip my hat to you good sir
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Old July 6 2013, 10:48 PM   #39
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I don't think Hollywood has much to worry about, whilst Hollywood Stidos may bankroll a film, it doesn't mean that they are all filmed in Hollywood.

Off the top of my Head

SW 1, 4-6 shoot in the UK (2 and 3 had parts shoot in the UK) and 7 is likely to filmed in the UK

LOTR/The Hobbit, New Zealand

Harry Potter films shoot in the UK

Bond films shoot in the UK and around the world.

As for DW at 50 yearsold, I hardly think it's challanging Hollywood. The US like many other countries imports some TV shows.
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Old July 6 2013, 10:57 PM   #40
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I agree with him, I saw a film recently - it had a foreigner as a lead - said he was a kryptonian, that was a role that could have been played by an American Super-soldier.
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Old July 6 2013, 11:20 PM   #41
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I agree with him, I saw a film recently - it had a foreigner as a lead - said he was a kryptonian, that was a role that could have been played by an American Super-soldier.
Damn foreigners.
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Old July 7 2013, 12:35 AM   #42
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Hollywood has become too expensive, way too expensive. Costly locations for tv, highly paid actors, unions etc. Hollywood faces competition now. Also kids today are exposed to all kinds of brands on their phones, on their emails, stuff like Pokemon is stupid but it sells and I also believe something of a multi cultural shift is happening across many parts of the world and maybe in the United States of America too with movies like The Legend of Zorro, The Intouchables, Hero or Pan's Labyrinth making money at the box office.
I believe we will see more foreign television series like Lost Girl.
Hollywood needs an answer. Making mindless cheap tv is not the answer, like some American Singfactor Idol bullsht or some stupid Survivor Island show.
Hollywood itself no longer has American people in it, they aren't baby boomers anymore, no families are making US babies. You go there on contract to work and its all Chinese and all Mexican. I'm all for diversity but sometimes things get to a stage where it gets ridiculous. Nobody owns property anymore, they are all renters, you need a translator to do business. I think Hollywood could make big money if they moved their productions like other shows have done, you make your series in Chicago , Jacksonville, or Boston or say do something similar with the tv series Dallas or tv series Trueblood. Not that I'm saying Trueblood and Dallas are the best shows on Earth. I wish Hollywood would see beyond L.A, NewYork and SoCal.....there's a whole other world out there and America is a diverse place and so many other states have a lot to offer.
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Old July 7 2013, 01:55 AM   #43
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It's true that Hollywood blockbusters have become prohibitively expensive.

Do you really think that mainstream American TV/film viewers will start to watch low budget foreign films over their Michael Bay dreck? Foreign produced movies and TV will certainly get a larger share than before, but they will always be a niche. Most American viewers will not even watch something that is not high budget.

And if foreigners did manage to create something Americans wanted to pay for more than American produced entertainment, wouldn't they...deserve it?

And wasn't America...ummmm...founded on multiculturalism? Give us your tired, your poor, your hungry? There was no footnote saying 'If you speak English and conform to us'. No, it is not 'Cultural unity or multiculturalism'. America takes a little from every culture. That's the definition of America.

If you don't like it you can 'git eht'.

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Old July 7 2013, 02:32 AM   #44
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Not to get into the racist or not argument, but Hollywoods end?

Hollywood is making a killing overseas. All these idiotic TV shows and stupid action fest movies are seen around the entire world in nearly every country. A 300 million dollar blockbuster in the US can make another 700 million overseas. I don't see Americans importing a lot of TV shows or movies really. Its pretty uncommon. If anything Hollwood will make new brands to appeal to Americas changing demographics and continue to produce idiotic entertainment for all colors and creeds.
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Hollywood being over-priced is an opportunity for Chicago or Louisiana or some other city to step it up and show they can be great US film makers
I'd just like to point out the rather large number of films being produced in and around the Boston area: Including a number of big Oscar winners...

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