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View Poll Results: Is Hollywood tv and movies facing its end?
Hollywood will always own the tv and film industry 5 41.67%
Competition is good and will force positive changes 8 66.67%
It will struggle but survive 2 16.67%
Demographics, L.A film will fall to a tsunami of never-married foreigners 2 16.67%
Spielberg is right the movie industry is doomed 1 8.33%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 12. You may not vote on this poll

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Old July 6 2013, 05:09 PM   #16
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I can't see the point of this thread through all the racism.
I'm pretty sure the racism is the point.
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Old July 6 2013, 05:24 PM   #17
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Hollywood itself no longer has American people in it, they aren't baby boomers anymore, no families are making US babies. You go there on contract to work and its all Chinese and all Mexican. I'm all for diversity but sometimes things get to a stage where it gets ridiculous. Nobody owns property anymore, they are all renters, you need a translator to do business.
What's with all the racist posts that came out recently? Is it Racism Week or something?
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Old July 6 2013, 05:43 PM   #18
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So I take it you are the arbiter of good taste? If only everyone was as sophisticated as you?
I'm sorry Bill yes you're right everyone has their own taste and yes we should respect that but I still say 'reality tv' is the biggest pile of shit to be ever broadcast

locking a bunch of idiots in a room with a camera or locking them on an island is not a tv show to me

thank goodness for tv like HBO


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recently? Is it Racism Week or something?
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I can't see the point of this thread through all the racism.
I'm pretty sure the racism is the point.
Whatever you paranoid pc morons

I'm talking about language and education
not RACE as in Ethnicity

I suppose you could accuse me of maybe "Language-ism"
but its not race or racism, you know if you get contract work in France the people do expect you to speak their language, FRENCH.

Let me say it again

The lack of English skills, lack of schooling
NOT RACE

I said I have no problem with any foreign person, Latino Americans, White Americans, African Americans, Asian Americans.....all great

What I have said is Hollywood is no longer selling as big in foreign countries as it used to, it competes in places like Korea and Brazil. Hollywood no longer gets a free ride overseas and foreign countries have strong film industries of their own

What I have said is foreign directors, from France, Mexico, Japan, Scotland wherever have made some of the best American movies

What I have said is if you do contract work in Hollywood today, the workers and agents and crew are of lower quality. You can need a translator to work today, in America.

because you have accused me of 'racism' when i have not posted anything racist
I welcome you paranoid politically correct morons to my block list


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What the heck is wrong with Dora? Or Zorro?
Nothing wrong, but I believe America will soon be at a turning point, it will either need to invest heavily on educating immigrant workers or immigrant teen kids in English, American culture or go the opposite way and totally embrace multi-culturalism, multi lingualism whatever. Allowing people to work in Spanish, have Spanish hospitals, have the next governor of California or Florida be a native Spanish speaker. You either have full national unity or full on multiculturalism. A half way measure between the two doesn't really work as the two ideologies are naturally opposed end up fighting each other. The demographics in Hollywood and problems in the film industry only reflect these failed social and political problems. and yes Hollywood is totally over priced, its productions are too expensive, its actors are too expensive. L.A itself has a demographic problem so many washed out wish they were successful 'stars'....the type who read poetry at the local karaoke bar and it has a large looming elderly population. A state needs to make babies if it is to have a future, California's population isn't just getting older but is actually set to shrink dramatically next decade. A looming elderly population is going to cost the State money, put pressure on medical services and the welfare system. This is a State that is already bankrupt, printed their own IOU currency and has the rest of the US paying for it.

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From what I've seen, Spielberg and Lucas have been saying that Hollywood is spending more money on "mega-blockbusters," which is not the same thing as saying locations, actors, unions, etc. are becoming too expensive.
some big names have complained about the cost and quality of doing business today in Hollywood. I will try to find the links and post later

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Old July 6 2013, 05:48 PM   #19
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most of the big hits are barely breaking even
Have you noticed they've sold almost the exact same movie this year a dozen times and none have profited less than around $100, even if you assume astronomical marketing costs.

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...it could be made by polyamorous Martians for all I care.
Don't give the porn industry any ideas.
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Old July 6 2013, 05:54 PM   #20
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What I have said is Hollywood is no longer selling as big in foreign countries as it used to, it competes in places like Korea and Brazil.
Hollywood is selling better than ever overseas -- that's where the vast majority of its revenue is coming from now.
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Old July 6 2013, 06:09 PM   #21
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Hollywood is selling better than ever overseas -- that's where the vast majority of its revenue is coming from now.
That's what I was thinking. The original poster simply has no clue what he/she is talking about.
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Old July 6 2013, 06:22 PM   #22
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Whatever you paranoid pc morons
Then you should probably go back and reread your original gibberish, because it comes off as quite racist.

Hollywood is going to continue to do what is does best: make money.
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Old July 6 2013, 06:44 PM   #23
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...it could be made by polyamorous Martians for all I care.
Don't give the porn industry any ideas.
Hey, "Debbie Does Deimos" was great!
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Old July 6 2013, 07:13 PM   #24
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Does the OP realize that Zorro was created by an American author and first published in an American magazine and first made into a movie by an American studio? Dora the Explorer is also an American TV show.

I don't live or work in "Hollywood", but are the studios there really staffed by people who only speak Chinese and Spanish?
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Old July 6 2013, 07:18 PM   #25
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Hollywood itself no longer has American people in it, they aren't baby boomers anymore, no families are making US babies. You go there on contract to work and its all Chinese and all Mexican.
So you only like americans.

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you no longer deal with quality American workers and agents, if you're on a contact it feels like your doing business in Mexico city or HongKong
people not from america don't do quality work.

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if people want to stay, work, live and make babies and be American....cool....give them papers but this dilution of quality will only make things worse for the industry
even if they become american, they are still incapable of quality work.

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I have no problem with any foreign person
except all the times you say do.

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What I have said is if you do contract work in Hollywood today, the workers and agents and crew are of lower quality.
repeating yourself a bit now, we get it, only americans can do quality work.

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you have accused me of 'racism' when i have not posted anything racist
except you have. repeatedly. and sadly he won't see this post :

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congrats for your idiotic sarcastic post and welcome to my block list
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I welcome you paranoid politically correct morons to my block list
man this guy really has a hard-on for blockages.

question: if someone quoted this, would he see it?
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Old July 6 2013, 07:29 PM   #26
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Does the OP realize that Zorro was created by an American author and first published in an American magazine and first made into a movie by an American studio? Dora the Explorer is also an American TV show.
Most of Zorro 2005 was filmed in San Luis Potosí, Mexico. The point I was making is Hollywood is too expensive to shoot along with all its other issues. Producers are eager now to move their tv or film to Mexico and Canada or even South Africa

Hollywood being over-priced is an opportunity for Chicago or Louisiana or some other city to step it up and show they can be great US film makers

I believe what Spielberg says, a crisis is looming and major studios like Warner Bros or Paramount or Fox are going to see some really big box office flops.
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Spielberg's comments have nothing to do with runaway production, which has been a reality in Hollywood for several decades and will continue being so. You do realize that most runaway productions are funded by Hollywood studios (the business side of which, in reality, has historically been based out of New York City, not Los Angeles)?
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might've distracted the audience of zorro if you could see chicago in the background
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Does the OP realize that Zorro was created by an American author and first published in an American magazine and first made into a movie by an American studio? Dora the Explorer is also an American TV show.
Most of Zorro 2005 was filmed in San Luis Potosí, Mexico. The point I was making is Hollywood is too expensive to shoot along with all its other issues. Producers are eager now to move their tv or film to Mexico and Canada or even South Africa

Hollywood being over-priced is an opportunity for Chicago or Louisiana or some other city to step it up and show they can be great US film makers

I believe what Spielberg says, a crisis is looming and major studios like Warner Bros or Paramount or Fox are going to see some really big box office flops.
Those other cities will still get payed by businesses that are based in "Hollywood". Going outside of Southern California isn't new. Hollywood importing shows from other countries isn't new either. Star Wars wasn't filmed in Southern California. (Why does Lucas hate America!!!!!???)
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