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Old July 6 2013, 12:08 AM   #2611
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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I loved loved loved Empire Sticks Back, however I kind of feel it is overrated
Stopped reading there.

Its my opinion.

Also I never said empire strikes back was overall an overrated film all I said was the that Vader's reveal of his true self was kind of overrated.


Geez....I honestly don't like it when people like myself get a lot slack just because we don't go with the majority's opinion of a film.

O and by the way, I think The Dark knight is overall an Overrated film as well.

sue me....
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Old July 6 2013, 12:29 AM   #2612
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

It's all opinion. Personally, I love TESB, but I know loads of people into their movies who remain completely unengaged with Star Wars and even find it boring. To suggest someone is in some way "stupid" for not instantly swallowing the hyperbole and worshipping TESB is of course the very height of conceitedness.
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Old July 6 2013, 01:39 AM   #2613
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

serenitytrek1 wrote: View Post
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I loved loved loved Empire Sticks Back, however I kind of feel it is overrated
Stopped reading there.

Its my opinion.

Also I never said empire strikes back was overall an overrated film
Well, yes - you did. Coming back later and saying "No, what I meant was ______" really doesn't change it.


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Geez....I honestly don't like it when people like myself get a lot slack just because we don't go with the majority's opinion of a film.
The word you mean is "flak," and you're not getting any flak, personally. Your opinions—often so confused that it's difficult for people to make out what you're saying, causing you to "restate" your opinion by saying almost the opposite of what you wrote the first time—are what's being criticised. In other words, it's not you that's at issue, it's your credibility, based upon the statements you yourself make.

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O and by the way, I think The Dark knight is overall an Overrated film as well.

sue me....
And, as if taking personally what wasn't intended as such weren't enough, you're now taunting in return. I really don't think you want to go there.

I think that instead you want to consider more carefully what you mean to say before posting the first time, making your points more clear and avoiding the need for later attempts at clarification.
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Old July 6 2013, 02:03 AM   #2614
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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Weird how there are no numbers for STID for W-Th...
I think it has to do with the holiday. IIRC, the same thing happened after Memorial day. I guess even the people that post the numbers need breaks, but they'll be up in due time.

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I loved loved loved Empire Sticks Back, however I kind of feel it is overrated
Stopped reading there.

Its my opinion.

Also I never said empire strikes back was overall an overrated film all I said was the that Vader's reveal of his true self was kind of overrated.


Geez....I honestly don't like it when people like myself get a lot slack just because we don't go with the majority's opinion of a film.

O and by the way, I think The Dark knight is overall an Overrated film as well.

sue me....
Well, for what it's worth, I understand that when you say "kind of," that means "kind of" and not "completely." No real clarification was needed, but it's nice that you provided it.
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Old July 6 2013, 02:35 AM   #2615
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D'oh. You're right. Mid-2015 according to the googles.

I wouldn't be surprised if that slips though.
I've been hearing 2015, yeah. But I wouldn't hold out too much hope.
So, you wouldn't hold out for a new hope, eh?
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Old July 6 2013, 02:41 AM   #2616
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SW is a vastly superior product (in that it sells a whole lot more.)
Yeah, not so much considering the prequel series. I think the SW franchise will have to have good word of mouth during production to overcome what Lucas did to the SW fanbase with the prequel series. (And yes, overall having Lucas no longer driving the franchise helps in this regard; still I think people may be wary of this new outing.)
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Old July 6 2013, 05:08 AM   #2617
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

Worried Han Solo might end up in a fridge?
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Old July 6 2013, 09:32 AM   #2618
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Wait until Abrams takes care of the Indiana Jones saga.
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Old July 6 2013, 11:07 AM   #2619
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serenitytrek1 wrote: View Post
However once you take away the 3d prices of STiD
Why would you want to do that ?

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I'm a big-time Star Trek fan. But The Empire Strikes Back is just a fucking awesome movie.
Irrespective of the original SW's influence, I'll go ahead and say that Empire is probably the best sci-fi movie ever made.

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Yeah, not so much considering the prequel series.
Well I don't like them as much as the originals, of course, but they still made a ton of money, and to the people who didn't grow up with Star Wars they're not seen as negatively.
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Old July 6 2013, 11:58 AM   #2620
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Irrespective of the original SW's influence, I'll go ahead and say that Empire is probably the best sci-fi movie ever made.
For me, films like 2001, Blade Runner, Forbidden Planet, Akira etc are all superior Sci-Fi. TESB is a liitle overrated and fawned over IMO, but is still a excellent movie nevertheless.
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Old July 6 2013, 12:06 PM   #2621
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SW is a vastly superior product (in that it sells a whole lot more.)
Yeah, not so much considering the prequel series. I think the SW franchise will have to have good word of mouth during production to overcome what Lucas did to the SW fanbase with the prequel series. (And yes, overall having Lucas no longer driving the franchise helps in this regard; still I think people may be wary of this new outing.)
I think being sequels not knowing what happens next instead of prequels knowing where they'd end up helps too.

Besides Star Wars is a far stonger brand 8 years on from Sith than it was 8 years on from Jedi. What did it have to show for itself in 1991?
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Old July 6 2013, 03:58 PM   #2622
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

I was searching for a theater time to take the family to "Despicable Me 2" last night, so for the fun of it, I also checked to see which theaters were still showing STID. The only places that came up near my zip code were the Udvar Hazy center and a theater in Fairfax. Out of curiosity, I typed in the DC zip code, and only four theaters came up: Alexandria, Bethesda, Clarendon, and Silver Spring.

I was surprised to see it's still at Udvar Hazy (the air and space museum near Dulles Airport). Tempted to take in a third viewing just because of the location.

At any rate, showing in as few places as it is, if the movie is going to get any kind of Fourth of July weekend bump in the DC-Northern VA area, people are really going to have to want to drive to see it.
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Old July 6 2013, 04:11 PM   #2623
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Irrespective of the original SW's influence, I'll go ahead and say that Empire is probably the best sci-fi movie ever made.
For me, films like 2001, Blade Runner, Forbidden Planet, Akira etc are all superior Sci-Fi. TESB is a liitle overrated and fawned over IMO, but is still a excellent movie nevertheless.
I agree with this. SW, as much as I love it (and I happen to be one of the people who like the prequels despite the fact that they're kind of crappy), is not science fiction, per se. It's a space opera that has no clue as to how science works.

Science fiction should be at least somewhat focussed on extrapolating the possible developments of science. As far as that goes, SW fails pretty badly. George Lucas has no clue about science. Like, at all.

As action flics set in space, following rules of physics particular to their own universe, they are very entertaining, and I love them.

However, as far as science fiction films go, there are vastly superior ones - like some film adaptations of Philip K. Dick stories.

Of course, YMMV.
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Old July 6 2013, 11:24 PM   #2624
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Saw it a fifth time yesterday.

There is only one theatre in Melbourne that's still showing STID (in the centre of the city, fortunately, so I didn't have to go out into the boondocks).
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Old July 6 2013, 11:52 PM   #2625
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It did about 410,000 yesterday roughly 29% off of last week's Friday.

Might try and dig up the reports for Thursday and Wednesday.

But the bean counters from Paramount are on Vacation. Not uncommon, especially as they don't have anything major opening.

And the film is getting closer to the point where the studio wont release daily tracking for it anyway. Probably in the next two weeks we will only get final numbers for the week.
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