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Old July 4 2013, 02:03 PM   #31
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(I love the ship).
I like it too. But a purist might say it's in fact an upside down Akira.
The irony (at least for me) there is, that until that fact was pointed out to me, I didn't even notice the connection. The design of the NX-01 never bothered me all that much. I was hoping to see a Dadelous class ship when the show first started, but, oh well...
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Old July 4 2013, 04:05 PM   #32
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The design of the NX-01 never bothered me all that much. I was hoping to see a Dadelous class ship when the show first started, but, oh well...
I was always very 'meh' towards the design. I did see the upsidedown Akira in there and missed the lack of a secondary hull, but she did have a few nice elements, whilst all the sets inside were good and practical--just what a ship of that era would need.

Though I would have loved for the series to be Daedalus-based, especially seeing the artwork that's out there now of an updated look for the Class. If I were the one making a pre-TOS series, that is the ship I would have based it on.
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Old July 4 2013, 06:42 PM   #33
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The real disappointment in season 4 is the way they ended the series but if you are into the books I would end the last episode right away with book "The Good That Men Do". Go for it and have fun.
Supposedly it was the missing connection from the start of the whole show. No show can start without a cameo from a show before. They though TNG might be a good choice. It was the worst possible choice.

So I agree, watching the season 4 until the very last episode is a good idea. Skipping the last episode is an even better idea. At least ending the show does not leaves a taste of ashes.
I probably wasn't clear enough. I meant watch right through - then go and read "The Good That Men Do".
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Old July 4 2013, 06:49 PM   #34
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And of course the Star Trek fanbase is a hard fanbase to please.
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Old July 4 2013, 09:12 PM   #35
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Come on guys... did you really want this monstrosity of a ship?

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Old July 4 2013, 09:14 PM   #36
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I think you should stick with it. I'm enjoying it at least.

I'm on Season 2 now.

I hear often that it gets better as it goes on, which appears to be true. So far it's been getting better and better.
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Old July 4 2013, 09:25 PM   #37
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Come on guys... did you really want this monstrosity of a ship?

You know what, what the ship looks like is well down on m list of what I want from a show.

I tend to prefer things like

Interesting stories and good characterisation.
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Old July 4 2013, 10:42 PM   #38
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I am indeed continuing with the show. Thinking back to TNG, the first season of that show was far worse than the first season of ENT has been so far. If that show was able to radically change gears, then ENT is more than capable of doing the same. Whether it actually does.......well, I'll judge that for myself, but based on what you all are saying I trust that it will. Stay tuned for my reviews of future episodes.

Also, read somewhere that showrunners and fans are trying to revive ENT for a fifth season. Think this stands a chance of happening?
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Old July 5 2013, 12:54 AM   #39
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Come on guys... did you really want this monstrosity of a ship?

You know what, what the ship looks like is well down on m list of what I want from a show.

I tend to prefer things like

Interesting stories and good characterisation.
I never care about ships, which is why I was surprised to fall for the NX-01. I love the outside but the interior is also a huge plus for watching ENT for me.. I like how it's more submarine like, claustrophobic and stripped back to basics. It gives it a much more frontier space feel and makes them seem more vulnerable (which they are).
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Old July 5 2013, 11:00 AM   #40
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Also, read somewhere that showrunners and fans are trying to revive ENT for a fifth season. Think this stands a chance of happening?
Unlikely. The show was pretty much continued by books. The Good that Men Do and Kobayashi Maru for starters and then the 2 books on Earth-Romulan War.
Screenwriters had ideas on how to continue the story, but never had the chances to apply them. It was good that at the start of season 4 they actually dropped the whole temporal cold war arc. IMO that was the weakest feature of Ent. That and maybe the lack of character development when it comes to certain characters, like Mayweather, Reed and maybe Hoshi.
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Old July 5 2013, 03:20 PM   #41
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Screenwriters had ideas on how to continue the story, but never had the chances to apply them. It was good that at the start of season 4 they actually dropped the whole temporal cold war arc. IMO that was the weakest feature of Ent. That and maybe the lack of character development when it comes to certain characters, like Mayweather, Reed and maybe Hoshi.
I found it weird that Archer was supposed to care about alliances and ideals that had no reality in his world during seasons 1-3. Whenever Future Guy showed up, I felt that Archer largely won the argument: why should he care about someone else's future? With all the concentration on the Temporal Cold War and the Xindi conflict, the show made little progress toward making interplanetary cooperation part of the Enterprise's universe (save some fealty from Shran). That work didn't begin until season 4.

ETA: for the sake of transparency, I should admit that I was tired of time travel stories by the time Enterprise began. And I started to roll my eyes at things like the ransacked library of the Federation.
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Old July 5 2013, 05:58 PM   #42
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I forgot to mention it at the start of this thread, but PLEASE, NO SPOILERS. Sorry for the late warning, but thanks for being considerate and not posting any spoilers.
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Old July 5 2013, 06:39 PM   #43
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Come on guys... did you really want this monstrosity of a ship?

Yes.

It's no worse than the Ron Moore Galactica, which COMPLETELY loses the elegance of the original, and instead looks like a loose collection of bubbles with Bic lighter flames coming out the back of it.
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Old July 5 2013, 06:42 PM   #44
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I am indeed continuing with the show. Thinking back to TNG, the first season of that show was far worse than the first season of ENT has been so far. If that show was able to radically change gears, then ENT is more than capable of doing the same. Whether it actually does.......well, I'll judge that for myself, but based on what you all are saying I trust that it will.
If I were you, I'd ignore that whole "It takes two years for a Star Trek show to get better" nonsense. It's NEVER been true, and as you will find out when you get there with ENTERPRISE, It's REALLY not true in this case.
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Old July 5 2013, 10:18 PM   #45
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I am indeed continuing with the show. Thinking back to TNG, the first season of that show was far worse than the first season of ENT has been so far. If that show was able to radically change gears, then ENT is more than capable of doing the same. Whether it actually does.......well, I'll judge that for myself, but based on what you all are saying I trust that it will.
If I were you, I'd ignore that whole "It takes two years for a Star Trek show to get better" nonsense. It's NEVER been true, and as you will find out when you get there with ENTERPRISE, It's REALLY not true in this case.
Do you not agree that TNG and DS9 improved after their initial seasons? Or even VOY? (which I think marginally improved with each season, until the last two seasons when I think it really blossomed)
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