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View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 28 11.16%
A 53 21.12%
A- 46 18.33%
B+ 25 9.96%
B 27 10.76%
B- 11 4.38%
C+ 13 5.18%
C 12 4.78%
C- 9 3.59%
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D 10 3.98%
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Old July 2 2013, 12:10 PM   #1066
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More like the DC editors have no consistency
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Old July 2 2013, 06:29 PM   #1067
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Found it New 52 Superman issue 14 They Will Join You in The Sun. Funny how this Superman is just starting out and is supposed to be the same strength if not weaker than his previous incarnation and this one issue says screw that noise and has Supes do some ridiculous BS like this.




Made all the more distressing by the fact that Orm/Ocean Master and Vulko another Atlantian have no problems laying into the bench pressing, Earth New52 Superman. Comic writers have no consistency.
IIRC, Superman as of that issue has been active for a few years, also it's on the next page after that one that the Doctor helping him test his limits notices the single bead of sweat forming on his brow.
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Old July 2 2013, 06:33 PM   #1068
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The present era Superman tops out at 700 mph or the speed of sound.
The Byrne era Superman could travel much faster than the speed of sound by the early nineties. In the Reign of the Superman, he says something like he could fly from Metropolis to Coast City in six minutes. That's what? Mach 10?
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Old July 2 2013, 08:30 PM   #1069
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Oh boy, it's a versus thread!!!!!
And still no Superman vs Goku
Crank this thread up to 9000!
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Old July 2 2013, 10:09 PM   #1070
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A-

I sooo wanna go higher. Because I really, really enjoyed it. A true cinema movie, made toe watched in theaters. But my main problem with is that it feels like an intro for so long. It's a great fucking intro. But still, an intro. And that's a bit of an issue when you're over an hour into it. Understandable when it's a brand new origin, but even so.

Granted, that is pretty much my issue with it. Great, great casting all around. Henry Cavill was awesome as Supes, look forward to see him balance Clark Kent vs Superman in the next one. Oh, also loved that they basically imply that Lois already knows who he is when he turns up at The Planet at the end. Glad they cut trough that stupid crap.

Michael Shannon I think really owned Zod and nailed him being a maniac who does what he does because he believes it is the right thing to do for his people. Antje Trau was awesome and oh so sexy as Faora, and fun seeing Richard Schiff again.

Biggest casting coup though in my opinion: Kevin Costner. Costner so nails Pa Kent that it gave me shivers. The scene with the tornado where he just holds up his hand to stop Clark from revealing his powers and let him go...powerful stuff. I got kinda choked up when i saw that. I'll be recommending the movie to people, but what I will always mention is Costner.


As for the destruction towards the end of the movie....I'd heard all this hubbub about it so expected a lot more then what was actually in the movie. And to be honest, I wasn't that bothered.
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Old July 2 2013, 10:52 PM   #1071
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^^^^^
My wife and I really liked Costner too. The scene when Clark asks if he should have let his friends die and Costner responds "I don't know" was really well done, for example. In the movie it wasn't cold like in the trailers, but more of a man who is really struggling to figure out what is best for Clark and the world that he will inhabit. And even though I saw the scene in the trailers, when he says "you are my son" it really held emotional impact in the context of the story.

The best part is, thanks to the flashback structure, Costner can return in future movies.
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Old July 2 2013, 11:22 PM   #1072
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^Yeah, that was a great scene. Costner really sold how hard it must be to have to say something like that to your kid. And yeah, the "You are my son" bit was great.

I hadn't thought about the flashback structure like that. I do hope the use that opportunity, I really do think he was such a strong part of the movie.
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Old July 2 2013, 11:23 PM   #1073
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Costner was fantastic. I hope we see more of him in the sequel.
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Old July 3 2013, 12:00 AM   #1074
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Thor held his own in a comic against one Kryptonian.

I counted more than one tearing up Metropolis in Man Of Steel.
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Old July 3 2013, 12:21 AM   #1075
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Loki is the God of Mischief. It's his job to fuck with good people's lives in unpredictable ways. I don't see him having a lot of trouble finding kryptonite if he needs it. The history of Krypton means there's a debris field full of it floating around in space somewhere.
You say that like it's a natural conclusion that rocks from your homeworld are somehow super poisonous to you and will strip you of your powers while you're near it.
For me, no, but that's been the conclusion for Superman since the old radio series where the concept was invented.
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Old July 3 2013, 12:28 AM   #1076
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^Yeah, that was a great scene. Costner really sold how hard it must be to have to say something like that to your kid. And yeah, the "You are my son" bit was great.

I hadn't thought about the flashback structure like that. I do hope the use that opportunity, I really do think he was such a strong part of the movie.
As much as I loved the flashback structure in this movie, I'm not sure I really want to see more of it in a sequel. It made sense here because he was feeling lost and conflicted, and his reflecting back on his parents and childhood helped give us some important insight into his character.

But by this point I think we need to see him focusing more on the present and where he's at now, and feeling a lot more sure of himself and his role in the world. Instead of constantly looking back to the past like before.

And of course if he does need advice, he can always still visit his mother.
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Old July 3 2013, 03:55 AM   #1077
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Well, this has made more than half a billion dollars worldwide now.
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Old July 3 2013, 04:15 AM   #1078
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As for the destruction towards the end of the movie....I'd heard all this hubbub about it so expected a lot more then what was actually in the movie. And to be honest, I wasn't that bothered.
Well, as I said earlier in the thread, my only complaint about the destruction was that it went on and on for fifteen years without end. They could've cut about 30-40 minutes of that out and the movie wouldn't have lost a thing.

Otherwise, I agree, it was a fine film. Not as good as the Donner movies, but, what could be?
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Old July 3 2013, 06:08 AM   #1079
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Oh, also loved that they basically imply that Lois already knows who he is when he turns up at The Planet at the end.
It was more than a hint, she does know.

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As much as I loved the flashback structure in this movie, I'm not sure I really want to see more of it in a sequel.
If they go the Dark Knight route, we won't be getting a lot of flashbacks.

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And of course if he does need advice, he can always still visit his mother.
I'm sure the Jor-El program is still around. Can't delete him that easily.

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Well, this has made more than half a billion dollars worldwide now.
With a lot of movies crossing the billion-dollar mark, $523 million feels weak to me. At least it has a shot at being in the top 100 though.
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Old July 3 2013, 09:11 AM   #1080
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Well, this has made more than half a billion dollars worldwide now.
With a lot of movies crossing the billion-dollar mark, $523 million feels weak to me. At least it has a shot at being in the top 100 though.
It's made more than in a little over two weeks than Superman Returns did in 19 weeks. Somewhere in the world Bryan Singer is crying himself to sleep. $500 was the bar MoS had to clear in order to be considered to be a success to Warner Bros. I suspect MoS may final total at $700 million worldwide. It's a step in the right direction. Even though it's not perfect.
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