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Old July 2 2013, 09:17 PM   #16
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Everything I've seen about this movie looks terrible. I'm surprised to hear that reviewer describe the action sequence with the train as such a great, polished set-piece, because it looked regoddamndiculous in the trailers. Maybe that and the quirkiness might make it somewhat redeemable, but this is probably a wait for video for me.
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Old July 2 2013, 09:27 PM   #17
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I would have loved to have seen a proper, big budget Lone Ranger movie, but the way the critics describe it makes it sound WAY too much like the Pirates sequels for my taste-- bloated, way too long, unnecessarily convoluted with too many boring subplots and side characters, and cartoonish, over the top action you don't believe a second of.

And the way they turned the Lone Ranger himself into a bumbling idiot just makes me want to punch someone.

Granted, the critics weren't too kind to MOS either, which I loved. But at least that movie wasn't made by the team behind the Pirates sequels.
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Old July 2 2013, 09:37 PM   #18
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I have Zero interest in a Lone Ranger parody, and I'm surprised they are still investing Big Budgets into these parodies of old TV shows.
I think the studio was banking the the popularity of Johnny Depp with younger audiences and the Pirates was so successful which was also a parody and a re-hash.

Disney's mistake IMO was western's not equal to pirates.
I don't know that I would I put Pirates of the Carribean in the same class though. It was it's own thing, wasn't it? These Old TV shows Parodies I am referring to, most of them were dramas, and for some reason, they believed a parody of those Drama TV shows would bring in a large nostalgia crowd (Unless there was an old Pirates of the Carribean TV Show that was a drama being parodied)
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Old July 2 2013, 10:43 PM   #19
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davejames wrote: View Post
I would have loved to have seen a proper, big budget Lone Ranger movie, but the way the critics describe it makes it sound WAY too much like the Pirates sequels for my taste-- bloated, way too long, unnecessarily convoluted with too many boring subplots and side characters, and cartoonish, over the top action you don't believe a second of.

And the way they turned the Lone Ranger himself into a bumbling idiot just makes me want to punch someone.

Granted, the critics weren't too kind to MOS either, which I loved. But at least that movie wasn't made by the team behind the Pirates sequels.
I agree with everything you have said! I was looking forward to a good big budget Lone Ranger movie and what bothers me the most that they turned the Lone Ranger, the main character into a buffoon!!
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Old July 2 2013, 10:50 PM   #20
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Does Tonto even say "Kemo Sabe" once during this thing?
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Old July 3 2013, 12:34 AM   #21
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Does Tonto even say "Kemo Sabe" once during this thing?
Yeah I heard some clips on the radio where he uses the term. Although apparently they changed the meaning from "trusty scout" or "faithful friend" to.... "wrong brother." Because now it's supposed to be a derogatory thing I guess.

And apparently Tonto also makes fun of the "Hi-yo Silver" line as well, which is just... ugh.
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Old July 3 2013, 12:36 AM   #22
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Everything I've read about this seems to indicate it's not so much a Western, but a Hollywood action movie that so happens to be set in the old west.
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Old July 3 2013, 12:50 AM   #23
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Everything about it does make it sound bad, but with Helena Bonham Carter in it, it might just make it a must see.
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Old July 3 2013, 02:22 AM   #24
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The Mask Of Zorro is pretty much the last decent one and that was ages ago.
Since then, we've had Open Range, 3:10 to Yuma, and True Grit, not to mention such modern westerns (in spirit if not necessarily setting) as No Country for Old Men, Once Upon a Time in Mexico, and Premium Rush. Cowboys and Aliens, OTOH... yeah, that was awful.

Anyhow, funny you should mention Mask. Stephen Greydanus writes:
The main plot of The Lone Ranger steals from the original Mask of Zorro: White men plot to exploit and murder natives in order to steal the wealth of their land (silver rather than gold). There’s another corrupt General Custer cavalry type (Barry Pepper). Oh, and the patrician villain carries a torch for the hero’s woman (though in this case our hero himself is also carrying a torch for her, because she’s actually his brother’s woman).

Needless to say, the comparison only accents The Lone Ranger’s glaring deficiencies. The Mask of Zorro took nobility, honor and heroism as seriously as villainy: Anthony Hopkins’s Don Diego was a skilled, classy and cunning warrior, and Antonio Banderas played a scruffy rogue undergoing a grueling tutelage to become worthy of the mask of Zorro.

The Lone Ranger laughs at all this. John’s moral scruples make him ridiculous and naive, not admirable. His defining trait is not his morality, but his cluelessness.
Sounds almost Wild Wild West bad... and 43 minutes longer!
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Old July 3 2013, 02:23 AM   #25
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Does Tonto even say "Kemo Sabe" once during this thing?
Yeah I heard some clips on the radio where he uses the term. Although apparently they changed the meaning from "trusty scout" or "faithful friend" to.... "wrong brother." Because now it's supposed to be a derogatory thing I guess.
Kind of like that Far Side cartoon where an elderly Lone Ranger is looking through a dictionary:

"'Kemo Sabe'...Apache expression for a horse's rear end...what the hell?!?"

And isn't it Hi-HO silver?
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Old July 3 2013, 03:02 AM   #26
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Does Tonto even say "Kemo Sabe" once during this thing?
Yeah I heard some clips on the radio where he uses the term. Although apparently they changed the meaning from "trusty scout" or "faithful friend" to.... "wrong brother." Because now it's supposed to be a derogatory thing I guess.
Kind of like that Far Side cartoon where an elderly Lone Ranger is looking through a dictionary:

"'Kemo Sabe'...Apache expression for a horse's rear end...what the hell?!?"

And isn't it Hi-HO silver?
No, it's Hi-yo, Silver. Always has been.
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Old July 3 2013, 04:25 AM   #27
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I enjoy the radio programs on XM. Won't be going to see this flick.

Why can't they just, y'know, make a Lone Ranger movie? Why does it have to be so mucked up? Why all the backstory? Can't we just have a hero? This makes me think of angsty-punk Kirk-with-backstory in JJtrek 09. Or Depp's all-psychy-angsty-father-issues Willy Wonka.
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Old July 3 2013, 04:37 AM   #28
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Erm..........The Lone Ranger is SciFi? Did they change the concept so much that we're talking about it in the SciFi forum?
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Old July 3 2013, 04:54 AM   #29
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Erm..........The Lone Ranger is SciFi? Did they change the concept so much that we're talking about it in the SciFi forum?
I was wondering about that myself.
I'm definitely not bothering with this movie. Nothing in the previews or commercials looks very compelling.
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Old July 3 2013, 06:18 AM   #30
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Erm..........The Lone Ranger is SciFi? Did they change the concept so much that we're talking about it in the SciFi forum?
The Lone Ranger is considered a Superhero and this is where those movies are discussed. In the mythos of the Lone Ranger he is the great-uncle of the Green Hornet another masked crime fighting superhero with a side-kick.

If the mods don't think this belongs in this section I am sure they will either move it or close it down.
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