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Old July 2 2013, 10:18 PM   #16
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Re: Why are Creationists so afraid of Evolution?

I'm not afraid of evolution. Or devolution. I guess you could say I'm in favor of...volution.

srsly, to say that evolution is impossible is to put limits on God, and I'm not into that. I'll be sure and ask Him how exactly it happened, when the time comes...
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Old July 2 2013, 10:45 PM   #17
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Re: Why are Creationists so afraid of Evolution?

I believe God created the universe.

Does that make me a Creationist?
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Old July 2 2013, 10:48 PM   #18
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Re: Why are Creationists so afraid of Evolution?

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I believe God created the universe.

Does that make me a Creationist?
In the strictest sense? No, unless you also advocate that Adam and Eve were the first humans, and that God created everything as it currently is.
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Old July 2 2013, 10:52 PM   #19
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I believe God created the universe.

Does that make me a Creationist?
In the strictest sense? No, unless you also advocate that Adam and Eve were the first humans, and that God created everything as it currently is.
But wasn't creation made perfect, as in the Garden of Eden.

How did it become so imperfect?
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Old July 2 2013, 10:56 PM   #20
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Re: Why are Creationists so afraid of Evolution?

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But wasn't creation made perfect, as in the Garden of Eden.

How did it become so imperfect?
Original sin.
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Old July 2 2013, 10:57 PM   #21
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Re: Why are Creationists so afraid of Evolution?

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I believe God created the universe.

Does that make me a Creationist?
In the strictest sense? No, unless you also advocate that Adam and Eve were the first humans, and that God created everything as it currently is.
But wasn't creation made perfect, as in the Garden of Eden.

How did it become so imperfect?
I'd like to think that creation was perfect. How we got some imperfect was we as a society took that creation, spit all over it, fell in love with temptation and here we are. A person is smart. People are stupid disgusting ingrates.
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Old July 2 2013, 10:57 PM   #22
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Re: Why are Creationists so afraid of Evolution?

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I believe God created the universe.

Does that make me a Creationist?
In the strictest sense? No, unless you also advocate that Adam and Eve were the first humans, and that God created everything as it currently is.
But wasn't creation made perfect, as in the Garden of Eden.

How did it become so imperfect?
Well, there's a difference between believing God set things in motion, and God making humans exactly as they are, wholly unchanging over thousands of years.

A Creationist might argue either the introduction of the Serpent (as Satan) who tempted Eve to eat of the forbidden fruit, or that mankind decided to do wrong in the sight of God unbidden.

Of course, this opens up even more questions about how something that only knew good could know evil and be held responsible for that, but that has been addressed millions of times, and there's no real point to it anymore.
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Old July 2 2013, 10:59 PM   #23
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Re: Why are Creationists so afraid of Evolution?

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I believe God created the universe.

Does that make me a Creationist?
In the strictest sense? No, unless you also advocate that Adam and Eve were the first humans, and that God created everything as it currently is.
But wasn't creation made perfect, as in the Garden of Eden.

How did it become so imperfect?
Who defined what perfection is?
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Old July 2 2013, 11:00 PM   #24
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Re: Why are Creationists so afraid of Evolution?

Has the Big Bang Theory been proven?
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Old July 2 2013, 11:04 PM   #25
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Who defined what perfection is?
Well, I think current Church teaching is that the Bible creation story is an allegory. So I guess you can believe in creationism and evolution at the same time.
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Old July 2 2013, 11:07 PM   #26
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Has the Big Bang Theory been proven?
Not conclusively, but beyond reasonable doubt.
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Old July 2 2013, 11:08 PM   #27
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Re: Why are Creationists so afraid of Evolution?

^ Bazinga?
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Old July 2 2013, 11:08 PM   #28
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Re: Why are Creationists so afraid of Evolution?

I dunno, why do non-believers think it's necessary to rip into believers? You'd think given the totality of history they of all people would be open to tolerance among different ideas instead of just returning the favor as it were.
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Re: Why are Creationists so afraid of Evolution?

No one has been ripped into here. Not even creationists.
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Has the Big Bang Theory been proven?
Are you asking whether the expansion of the universe from a single focal point has been verified? I ask this because science doesn't quite work like your question seems to want it to work.

Current observations of the universe, along with mathematical evidence, support the notion of a big bang. Of course, like all things, some aspects of it may change over time as more evidence is observed. Science isn't like a religion. Nothing is every truly 100% absolute, not even the theory of gravity.

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Well, I think current Church teaching is that the Bible creation story is an allegory. So I guess you can believe in creationism and evolution at the same time.
Fundamentalist mainline churches teach that the Bible is literal, and that the Creation story is actual history. Still, most moderate Christians seem to reconcile evolution with their belief in a Judeo-Christian God, and see the Creation story as allegorical.
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