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Old July 1 2013, 07:20 PM   #61
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Re: Does Star Fleet not run psychiatric examinations on its recruits?

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^And there was also Janice Lester, compared to them Barclay is perfectly sane.
Was Janice Lester Starfleet? I thought she dropped out and went into the private sector. I don't remember her wearing a uniform.
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Old July 1 2013, 10:01 PM   #62
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You might be right. It's been a while since I've seen the episode.
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Old July 13 2013, 06:13 AM   #63
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Re: Does Star Fleet not run psychiatric examinations on its recruits?

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Well the fact that fool get high ranks seems no diffrent than today.
Sounds like every company that I ever worked for.
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Old July 13 2013, 06:07 PM   #64
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Didn't Janice speak of "the year we spent at Starfleet?"

She could have been a civilian with Starfleet when she had a relationship with Kirk. Perhaps during the time period that Lt. Kirk was an instructor at the academy.

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Old July 13 2013, 06:34 PM   #65
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It was pretty clear from TOS that if anyone knew James T. Kirk before he commanded Enterprise, they were probably now insane.
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Old July 13 2013, 08:19 PM   #66
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I find it strange that people would suggest that Barclay is mentally ill...

Don't people understand where his root problem lies? It's simple really, he's SHY.

All his problems stem from shyness and introversion.

Since when was that a mental illness?




As for reaching high ranks without commanding, people obviously don't understand the way the military works.

I'm a former Navy person and the people that command the big warships are the executive branch types.

If barclay was to command a ship it would probably be some kind of science vessel.

I'd imagine that a medical ship would probably be commanded by some kind of high ranking doctor.

Apart from that though, it is completely possible in things like the navy to reach high ranks without ever serving on a ship. In fact, the higher concentration of those higher ranks is actually among people that never see service on a ship.

You should see serving on a ship as being something that is just one way that people can go. Don't forget that there are tons and tons of starfleet bases all over the place. There are probably actually a much greater amount of manpower in bases than could ever be accommodated on the fleet of ships.

And then there are hospitals. And then there are scientific outposts. Probably plenty more besides.

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Old July 13 2013, 08:35 PM   #67
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Being shy, intoverted, is as you say not a mental illness.
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Old July 13 2013, 08:44 PM   #68
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Being shy, intoverted, is as you say not a mental illness.
As an introvert, I'd agree with this. I think introverts can be harder to read because they don't always broadcast their thoughts for everyone to hear, but that's not a sign of a behavioral problem or mental illness. One of the things modern psychiatry has tried to correct is the idea that because a person is poorly understood means said person has something wrong with them.

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Old July 14 2013, 12:58 AM   #69
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It was pretty clear from TOS that if anyone knew James T. Kirk before he commanded Enterprise, they were probably now insane.
Or an ex-flame. Or both.
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