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Old June 29 2013, 10:41 AM   #31
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Re: Having a baby on Voyager?

Are you blaming the Borg baby's inclusion in the fried green leola root stew on the epidemic of male impotence aboard our fine vessel?
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Old June 29 2013, 11:26 AM   #32
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Re: Having a baby on Voyager?

Uh, no.

I'm suggesting that even though a tree falls in the forest when there's no one around, that it DOES make a sound.

Not seeing the Borg baby get handed off to an adoptive family on a planet of her race, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Sometimes this insistence on Star Trek "Canon"... i.e. that if we didn't SEE it on the TV show, it didn't happen, is just a little silly.

Unlike on Firefly, did we ever see anyone use a toilet in Star Trek ???
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Old June 29 2013, 11:44 AM   #33
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Re: Having a baby on Voyager?

Well Zephram Cochrane did announce he had to take a leak..
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Old June 29 2013, 01:38 PM   #34
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Re: Having a baby on Voyager?

Yeah, but that was in the woods and it was just an excuse to run.

No toilet in sight yet again!
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Old June 29 2013, 04:02 PM   #35
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Re: Having a baby on Voyager?

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IThe question is, is it responsible to knowingly raise a child in the kind of environment where hostile aliens are regularly beaming themselves upon the ship and holding it hostage?

Can you provide the kind of socialization with children of the same age that people generally believe necessary to the healthy development of a human being? The same security? Will the crew treat you the same based on making either decision?
Interesting question, but you need to look at the past not the future for the answer. I live in Texas, less than 150 years ago people were coming here, raising families and trying to build a life with lots of Comanches all around, killing people and taking their children captive. Was it irresponsible and did they socialize their children correctly? You will probably get some argument right now LOL, but I blame that all on our idiot Governor and his gerrymandered legislature.

But that same statement can be made about any place in North or South America and you only have to change the name of the Indian tribe. Actually through out human history, traveling to a new place and making homes and families in hostile environments is the norm not the exception for at least the Human Race.
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Old June 29 2013, 05:10 PM   #36
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Re: Having a baby on Voyager?

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I, personally, do not have an opinion on that. I've found myself wondering, regularly, why people continued to procreate during slavery in the US, for example (aside from cases of rape).
I know right! What with the pill being so readily available and there being so much television in their quarters.
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Old June 29 2013, 05:23 PM   #37
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Someone should abort B'Elanna. Then she wouldn't make everyone else have to deal with her self-hatred for her heritage.
Someone should abort you.
Yikes! Abort the flaming we're going to have to start handing out warnings.
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Old June 29 2013, 05:23 PM   #38
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Yeah, but that was in the woods and it was just an excuse to run.

No toilet in sight yet again!
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Old June 29 2013, 06:45 PM   #39
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Why can't you use the toilet in Spacedock?
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Old June 29 2013, 07:27 PM   #40
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^^ Makes those "5 year missions" seem just that much longer!
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Old June 30 2013, 04:57 PM   #41
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Of course they were excited! They were having a child! Goodness! The only reason I can see why you asked this is to start an argument.
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Old June 30 2013, 10:37 PM   #42
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I find it weird on a ship lost for seven years, thousands of light-years away from home, with no real chance of ever making it back, that only two babies were ever born on board. They should have implemented a breeding programme after their first year, readying the ship to be crewed 20/30 years down the road.
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Old June 30 2013, 11:48 PM   #43
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Of course they were excited! They were having a child! Goodness! The only reason I can see why you asked this is to start an argument.
I think it's a valid question. I know it pains me sometimes to see characters pregnant under potentially awful circumstances. It adds a whole new level of stress to being under constant danger. The thing with Voyager is it's an upbeat show, the constant danger isn't stressed. But we do know it's there.

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I find it weird on a ship lost for seven years, thousands of light-years away from home, with no real chance of ever making it back, that only two babies were ever born on board. They should have implemented a breeding programme after their first year, readying the ship to be crewed 20/30 years down the road.
They discussed it as a possibility they might have to look at. This is the futurez where people are living a lot longer and able to breed a lot later. Their timeframe for "let's get cracking then.." is longer than ours would be.
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Old June 30 2013, 11:56 PM   #44
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Re: Having a baby on Voyager?

Icheb and Naomi could have bred half-Borg babies long after every else was gone. Except Tuvok. He would still be there at like 200 years old looking exactly the same.
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Old July 1 2013, 12:08 AM   #45
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I think they should have had Tuvok and Vorik do more of the breeding than some of the others. Vulcans are better than humans at most stuff, it would make sense to try and get more Vulcans. Sign up for some mini-Vulcans today, get home faster!
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