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Old June 6 2013, 12:03 AM   #346
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Re: IDW Star Trek Ongoing...

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What I was saying was that at no time was Kirk a "failing" cadet.
And remember the transporter readout. For all the time he was on the ship, Kirk wasn't any kind of cadet - he was already a Lieutenant.

We can infer that Kirk was just about to graduate the Academy as a Lieutenant - just like in the Prime timeline. The only reason we didn't see this was that the hearing was interrupted with news of the attack.
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Old June 7 2013, 04:23 AM   #347
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^ I'm not sure we can infer that... *all* the cadets seem to have been given ranks when they were assigned to the Enterprise. For some reason.

And IIRC, Kirk-Prime served on the Republic as an ensign, didn't he? Where does the "graduated as a lieutenant" come from?
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Old June 7 2013, 04:36 AM   #348
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And IIRC, Kirk-Prime served on the Republic as an ensign, didn't he? Where does the "graduated as a lieutenant" come from?
Captain Garrovick of the Farragut was Kirk's commanding officer "from the day [he] left the Academy." Kirk was a Lieutenant on the Farragut (when the cloud creature killed half the crew).

As for the Republic, it is entirely possible that Kirk took a cadet cruise on that ship and was given the rank of Ensign for that purpose.
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Old June 7 2013, 04:55 AM   #349
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^ Or it's possible that Garrovick was captain of the Republic when Ensign Kirk was assigned there upon graduation, and then Garrovick took Kirk with him when he was assigned command of the Farragut.

I don't recall them assigning all the cadets officer ranks for the training cruise in TWOK. (Sure, Saavik was a lieutenant junior grade, but she seemed to be the only one that I recall, and she had the rank before the training cruise started. Not exactly sure what the story is with her, but I'd guess that she had already graduated from the academy, and was back for command training or something.)
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Old June 7 2013, 10:37 PM   #350
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^ One of the other young'uns on the bridge in TWOK was wearing an officer's uniform but with a red shirt underneath, indicating cadet status.
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Old June 7 2013, 10:49 PM   #351
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^ One of the other young'uns on the bridge in TWOK was wearing an officer's uniform but with a red shirt underneath, indicating cadet status.
Correct. He and Saavik were assumed to be in "command school", an add-on course to the regular four years. I seem to recall publicity blurbs of the day.

As occurs today, some university students probably do courses concurrently, and others come back for additional courses.
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Old June 11 2013, 08:54 AM   #352
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Or it could be Sarah April . . .
that would definitely be interesting considering she was supposed to been the chief medical officer on April's Enterprise in the prime reality, maybe she was on April's Enterprise in this reality as well.
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Old June 30 2013, 03:48 PM   #353
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Caught up with parts one and two of "After Darkness". I like "Countdown to Darkness" and "After Darkness" better than the movie itself. Really enjoyed the first part. The second part felt like a bit of a detour. While the new take on Pon Farr is interesting I wish this arc was focusing more on the Klingons, Romulans, and Federation intrigue and save the Pon Farr stuff for a later story.
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Old June 30 2013, 10:26 PM   #354
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I'm hoping the political stuff is going to continue in the background for a while, rather than being foreground for one arc.
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Old July 1 2013, 02:15 PM   #355
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I'm hoping the political stuff is going to continue in the background for a while, rather than being foreground for one arc.
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Old July 1 2013, 08:36 PM   #356
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Caught up with parts one and two of "After Darkness". I like "Countdown to Darkness" and "After Darkness" better than the movie itself. Really enjoyed the first part. The second part felt like a bit of a detour. While the new take on Pon Farr is interesting I wish this arc was focusing more on the Klingons, Romulans, and Federation intrigue and save the Pon Farr stuff for a later story.
I enjoyed Countdown too, although I still want a movie adaptation to slot into the chronology. The comics have potential to build on themes and develop supporting characters and I hope that they still do the occasional TOS tale reboot.
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Old July 1 2013, 10:54 PM   #357
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Caught up with parts one and two of "After Darkness". I like "Countdown to Darkness" and "After Darkness" better than the movie itself. Really enjoyed the first part. The second part felt like a bit of a detour. While the new take on Pon Farr is interesting I wish this arc was focusing more on the Klingons, Romulans, and Federation intrigue and save the Pon Farr stuff for a later story.
I enjoyed Countdown too, although I still want a movie adaptation to slot into the chronology. The comics have potential to build on themes and develop supporting characters and I hope that they still do the occasional TOS tale reboot.
It's funny that you said that because the thought did occur to me that there wasn't a movie adaptation. I can't recall if they did a comic adaptation of Trek 2009 (I think they did). If so it's odd that they didn't do one for Into Darkness. It would be cool to have an adaptation especially if it added onto some of the supporting characters and events from the film.

Though if you want more of that story the upcoming Harrison comic I've heard about could fill in some of the blanks, even if not providing the adaptation you were hoping for.

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Thanks for the spoiler. Man, I was planning to drop the Trek comic after "After Darkness" and the Gorn issue, but now I think I might just stick around.
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Old July 1 2013, 11:56 PM   #358
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I can't recall if they did a comic adaptation of Trek 2009 (I think they did). If so it's odd that they didn't do one for Into Darkness.
They did but not until a year or so after the movie came out.
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Old July 2 2013, 12:38 AM   #359
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It's funny that you said that because the thought did occur to me that there wasn't a movie adaptation. I can't recall if they did a comic adaptation of Trek 2009 (I think they did).
They did, and spun it out to six issues!
http://www.startrekcomics.info/idwstmovie.html

According to my friend who manages a comic shop, movie adaptation comics are no longer the guaranteed huge sellers that they once were. In the 80s and 90s, a comic adapting the script of a big budget SF or superhero movie, released within days of a movie's premiere, was almost a given. In more recent years, the publishers have found that tie-in prequels and sequels (singles or mini-series) to movies do much better, and can assist with the viral marketing program for the movie. It also lessens the chance of secrets getting spilled before the film's release, or the comic not matching up to last-minute editing of the movie by its director or the studio. Sometimes the publishers even use a movie's publicity campaign to re-release old, but otherwise unrelated, comic stories featuring the characters from the new movie.

While some fans delight in an adaptation showing differences with the mother product, others expect and demand screen-accuracy. Especially when the DVD is imminent and the fans have ready access to many repeat viewings.

IDW hadn't originally planned on adapting the 2009 movie. Sales of the "Countdown" and "Nero" mini-series were excellent, though, so demand warranted a film adaptation. Being much further down the track, the mini-series adaptation was able to incorporate all the dropped scenes (from the "bonus features" of the DVD) and even unfilmed, scripted bits, such as the proposed Shatner cameo (which he'd turned down). Had it been rushed to a simultaneous release with the movie, the adaptation may have only been a single issue, with hastily-drawn, often-inaccurate art, such as those early DC adaptations we got for ST III, IV and V.
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Old July 2 2013, 10:16 AM   #360
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Thank you both for the info and link.

Therin, count me as one of those fans who don't mind seeing a comic book adaptation being different from the theatrical product. I like seeing many of the divergences and I also like when adaptations and novelizations add extra stuff. It makes for a fuller experience for me.
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