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Old June 29 2013, 11:38 PM   #16
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Re: John Bynre photocomics

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Make something for the younger crowd, nurture and grow the next generation (pun intended) of Star Trek fans.
Totally agree. We have many members of this board who, as children, got their interest in Trek kindled by early prime time, stripped episodes of TOS in 70s syndication, or by Filmation's TAS, or by the TNG "Young Adult" Starfleet Academy novels. It's been a long time between drinks.
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Old June 29 2013, 11:40 PM   #17
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I took a look at it. I'd rather see some good art with the story than a bunch of recycled screen caps. But that's just me.
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Old June 29 2013, 11:51 PM   #18
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Well, there did seem to be some original background art in the samples, specifically another angle of the lithium-cracking station's exterior behind the landing party. That looked like a CGI image. And of course the characters are newly composited against sets they never occupied onscreen, at least not in those uniforms.

I do wonder, though, if these stories will all be limited to featuring characters we've seen onscreen, and extensively enough that there are a lot of angles of them to choose from. What will Byrne do if he has to introduce a new character?
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Old June 30 2013, 01:38 AM   #19
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I think the new parts of the Delta Vega facility might be stock photos, actually. I don't think they really resemble the original painting. (Not in a bad way, they just look "real".)

I wonder why there's a S1+ Kirk on the pilot bridge
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Old June 30 2013, 06:46 AM   #20
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^I'm sure photo collage, like any other artistic medium, requires talent, practice, and a good eye to do well. We've all seen bad photoshop jobs as well as near-flawless ones.
Trust me, it's not as easy as it sounds. When I was in High School I took a Media Productions class where we used Photoshop extensively, and we'd spend entire classes working on one photo. If you have multiple sources, with different lighting, color saturation, ect. you can spend hours trying to blend things seamlessly, and that's only working with preexisting sources, if you have to create anything for it can take a lot longer. Hell, there were times in the class where I'd be blending things pixel by pixel trying to make them seamless, and that can take forever.
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Old June 30 2013, 03:34 PM   #21
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I wonder why there's a S1+ Kirk on the pilot bridge
Perhaps it's some kind of illusion/dream sequence? If they're returning to Delta Vega, it seems reasonable to expect that Gary Mitchell will turn out to be alive after all and that some reality-altering stuff will occur.
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Old June 30 2013, 05:35 PM   #22
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^ Yeah, I read through the whole thread on Byrne Robotics last night, and it seems so in context.

Anyone vaguely interested in this should read that thread; the work Byrne does to turn television into good comics is quite interesting, and I'm much more interested in this project than when I started this thread!

http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/f....asp?TID=43808
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Old June 30 2013, 07:38 PM   #23
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Sounds very interesting to me . . . more adventures; cool .

I've certainly enjoyed his Star Trek work so far . . .
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Old June 30 2013, 07:56 PM   #24
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Anyone vaguely interested in this should read that thread; the work Byrne does to turn television into good comics is quite interesting, and I'm much more interested in this project than when I started this thread!

http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/f....asp?TID=43808
Me too. Seeing more of his samples, I'm interested by his use of comic-book composition and conventions to spice up the screencaps -- like in his "Corbomite Maneuver" test pages, having the image of Spock on the sickbay monitor being in a "balloon" with its tail pointing to the monitor, yet with Spock's dialogue in balloons coming out of the inset image. I also liked that page where you had Kirk in the turbolift on the left, Spock on the bridge in the middle, and stacked back-and-forth dialogue balloons in the middle -- a nice graphic portrayal of the conversation between two locations. I'm seeing that even with recycled images, one can appreciate the artistry and skill of Byrne's compositions.

It's also interesting to see how he's approaching plotting via something akin to the Marvel method: first constructing a sequence of images, then devising the story and dialogue based on that sequence. (Although the Marvel method is plot first, then images, then dialogue, usually.)

What's impressive is that it only took a week to get from "the fantasy ... of IDW asking me to do [this]" (June 18) to "The STAR TREK Powers That Be have approved this for publication!" (June 25). The wheels don't generally turn that fast. I guess they must've been really eager for a new Byrne project.

Anyway, I'm a bit jealous, since I've also long imagined doing a "Gary Mitchell returns" story -- in fact, I outlined one as a pitch to IDW a few years ago, though the opportunity to present it to them never materialized. (We have seen at least one such story before -- in the [i]Star Trek/X-Men crossover from Marvel!)
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Old June 30 2013, 09:21 PM   #25
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I'm reading the thread on Byrne's forum, and I have to admit that my first impression was wrong. He's doing a bangup job with this.
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What's impressive is that it only took a week to get from "the fantasy ... of IDW asking me to do [this]" (June 18) to "The STAR TREK Powers That Be have approved this for publication!" (June 25). The wheels don't generally turn that fast. I guess they must've been really eager for a new Byrne project.
Even so, I wouldn't expect to see it on shelves before February. From October onward IDW will have two Star Trek titles -- the ongoing series and the Into Darkness prequel Khan -- and they know the comics market will only bear so much Star Trek.
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Old July 1 2013, 06:49 AM   #27
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Pretty much every ST project Byrne has done has been golden. This one may be produced a bit differently, but I'm in.
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Old July 1 2013, 04:31 PM   #28
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Anyone vaguely interested in this should read that thread; the work Byrne does to turn television into good comics is quite interesting, and I'm much more interested in this project than when I started this thread!

http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/f....asp?TID=43808
Me too. Seeing more of his samples, I'm interested by his use of comic-book composition and conventions to spice up the screencaps -- like in his "Corbomite Maneuver" test pages, having the image of Spock on the sickbay monitor being in a "balloon" with its tail pointing to the monitor, yet with Spock's dialogue in balloons coming out of the inset image. I also liked that page where you had Kirk in the turbolift on the left, Spock on the bridge in the middle, and stacked back-and-forth dialogue balloons in the middle -- a nice graphic portrayal of the conversation between two locations. I'm seeing that even with recycled images, one can appreciate the artistry and skill of Byrne's compositions.
It's knowing how good Byrne is at laying out comics that makes me more interested in this. A photo-comic in general doesn't excite me much, but knowing how talented Byrne is at visual story telling makes me, at the very least, curious to see what he ends up making.
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The fact that CBS signed off on this gives me hope that they'll let the licenses pursue other off-beat concepts. Why more hasn't been done with the Quogs-style Star Trek I don't understand. There should be Quogs-style illustrated books for young readers, kid-friendly comics, etc. Make something for the younger crowd, nurture and grow the next generation (pun intended) of Star Trek fans.
Here here! The Quogs seem such a wasted opportunity, they could have a lot of fun with them. They'd be perfect for funny short films and such like. QMx are startig to get playful with their Trekkies comic strips, but I prefer the Quogs style.
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The Quogs seem such a wasted opportunity, they could have a lot of fun with them. They'd be perfect for funny short films and such like. QMx are startig to get playful with their Trekkies comic strips, but I prefer the Quogs style.
I only bought the shortpacked Orion figure, but I did like how the Kirk and Spock were generic enough to be either the new or old actors playing the roles.

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As others have said, I'm a bit disappointed to not have more Byrne line art, but more Byrne Star Trek is really good news!
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