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Old June 28 2013, 09:31 PM   #1
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John Bynre photocomics

I don't see a thread on this, so here is the ever-reliable 8 of 5's writeup: http://www.thetrekcollective.com/201...rek-comic.html

Any thoughts? I'd be more excited if it was Byrne-drawn, I think. Seems... kinda goofy.
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Old June 28 2013, 10:05 PM   #2
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Re: John Bynre photocomics

It does seem kind of goofy, at first. But then I recall the photonovels that were published back in the '70s, and it seems less goofy. to me, at least.

Byrne's demonstrated fondness of Trek thus far leads me to believe that this will be at least interesting, if not more so.
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Old June 28 2013, 10:09 PM   #3
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Re: John Bynre photocomics

While the story might be worth checking out, it seems like a waste to have a John Byrne comic without John Byrne art.
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Old June 28 2013, 10:51 PM   #4
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Re: John Bynre photocomics

But with Byrne art it would just be another Trek comic, no matter how good. This way it really does seem to be photobooks of 'lost' episodes.

I like the idea - it just doesn't seem like the best use of Byrne...but it remains to be seen.
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Old June 28 2013, 10:59 PM   #5
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Re: John Bynre photocomics

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I agree with Christopher that actual Byrne art is always most welcome. I also agree with Relayer1 that this is an interesting experiement on the part of IDW. Maybe it won't work, but I gotta give them credit for trying something new/different.
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Old June 28 2013, 11:01 PM   #6
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But with Byrne art it would just be another Trek comic, no matter how good. This way it really does seem to be photobooks of 'lost' episodes.
I'm sorry, but I just don't see Photoshop collages as a step up from original artwork. Especially not artwork by the likes of Byrne. It would feel less disappointing if someone else were doing it, someone who isn't known as an acclaimed artist.
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Old June 28 2013, 11:11 PM   #7
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But with Byrne art it would just be another Trek comic, no matter how good. This way it really does seem to be photobooks of 'lost' episodes.
I'm sorry, but I just don't see Photoshop collages as a step up from original artwork. Especially not artwork by the likes of Byrne. It would feel less disappointing if someone else were doing it, someone who isn't known as an acclaimed artist.
I actually agree with you - it doesn't need someone like Byrne to put the photo's together, it's a waste of his talent. Anyone (within reason) could do that - it should be someone else. However, if he's writing the story, that is a different matter, that may be worthy of his involvement.

I do like the idea - it's interesting !
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Old June 29 2013, 12:17 AM   #8
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Re: John Bynre photocomics

"... building new scenes by compositing different elements together" is a legitimate artform, though. If artist Byrne is playing with computer techniques to create new art, I'm thrilled he's made Trek his new guinea pig!

Way too often, people complain here about "lazy" Photoshopped novel covers. This comic seems to be many steps ahead of that game.

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it doesn't need someone like Byrne to put the photo's together, it's a waste of his talent.
Brave person telling a professional artist he's "wasting" his talent. Artists create art for themselves. Sharing it with an audience is secondary.

Obviously it's not something anyone could do (well).
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Old June 29 2013, 01:06 AM   #9
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"... building new scenes by compositing different elements together" is a legitimate artform, though. If artist Byrne is playing with computer techniques to create new art, I'm thrilled he's made Trek his new guinea pig!
Byrne has been using computer manipulations as part of his art technique since the early 90s, from computer lettering to photo backgrounds. This project sounds like he's taking it that to the next level.

Frankly, to me, this sounds like Byrne is having fun. I'm intrigued.
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Old June 29 2013, 01:31 AM   #10
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Re: John Bynre photocomics

Sign me up! Sounds like this will be fun.
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Old June 29 2013, 10:54 AM   #11
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it doesn't need someone like Byrne to put the photo's together, it's a waste of his talent.
Brave person telling a professional artist he's "wasting" his talent. Artists create art for themselves. Sharing it with an audience is secondary.

Obviously it's not something anyone could do (well).
OK, how about not using his pencil and inking talent ?

I can't draw like Byrne - I can't write like him, I think I could do pretty much as good a job pasting film cell images together.
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Old June 29 2013, 02:13 PM   #12
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^I'm sure photo collage, like any other artistic medium, requires talent, practice, and a good eye to do well. We've all seen bad photoshop jobs as well as near-flawless ones.
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Old June 29 2013, 03:05 PM   #13
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Re: John Bynre photocomics

It does seem a kind of weird idea, but I am aware of the photonovel novelizations of TOS episodes from the 70s, my uncle once showed me the ones he still has. I guess if one remembers those, this could play off the nostalgia factor. I don't know, it might be interesting but I'm not getting too excited over it yet.
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Old June 29 2013, 03:30 PM   #14
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Re: John Bynre photocomics

The fact that CBS signed off on this gives me hope that they'll let the licenses pursue other off-beat concepts. Why more hasn't been done with the Quogs-style Star Trek I don't understand. There should be Quogs-style illustrated books for young readers, kid-friendly comics, etc. Make something for the younger crowd, nurture and grow the next generation (pun intended) of Star Trek fans.
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Old June 29 2013, 08:59 PM   #15
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Re: John Bynre photocomics

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^I'm sure photo collage, like any other artistic medium, requires talent, practice, and a good eye to do well. We've all seen bad photoshop jobs as well as near-flawless ones.
Yeah, there are bad sequential artists out there. People who can draw often have no idea how to make a story flow, and I once skimmed some Transformers photocomics in the store that were awful in terms of communicating story... and they had an actual episode to borrow their stills from! Byrne has skills.

But I like his drawings!

So I'm intrigued, but skeptical.
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