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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old June 25 2013, 12:42 PM   #91
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Re: Generations was...

I suppose the Nexus presents a pacing issue? We're late in the film, closing on the climax but throwing Picard into a comfortable christmas dinner and Kirk ino a nice morning doing chores. I'd agree playing up the heart-wrenching side of Picard's decision to leave, might have helped.

Have to admit I didn't like the Data story. It's goofy, he shortcuts his path to learning how to be human, and I don't really see how it fits with the wider themes of the movie.
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Old June 25 2013, 01:54 PM   #92
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Always preferred the Sovereign to the Galaxy Class, its a sleeker and sharper design (I've always seen it as a cross between the Constitution Refit and Intrepid Class) and after nearly 20 years it still holds up quite well. The Enterprise D on the other hand, while still being a fantastic design in its own right, was a product of its time.
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Old June 25 2013, 01:57 PM   #93
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At first I thought, I have some opinions on Generations so why not weigh in. But after giving the posts a careful read I decided that this conversation evokes an image we'd all rather wasn't so true.
I can see William Shatner on SNL telling everyone to "get out of your parent's basement once in awhile!" ...or words to that effect.
Remember, it is better to remain silent and be suspected an idiot, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. I leave with the letters that have allowed civilization to persist, IMHO.
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Old June 25 2013, 02:47 PM   #94
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I suppose the Nexus presents a pacing issue? We're late in the film, closing on the climax but throwing Picard into a comfortable christmas dinner and Kirk ino a nice morning doing chores. I'd agree playing up the heart-wrenching side of Picard's decision to leave, might have helped.
Yeah, pretty much. It is much easier said than done though. Sometimes you just don't see these things until you're watching it in context on the screen, so you can't really be too hard on Braga and Moore.

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Have to admit I didn't like the Data story. It's goofy, he shortcuts his path to learning how to be human, and I don't really see how it fits with the wider themes of the movie.
I think the reason you feel that way is because it was resolved way too easily. Picard and Data having the stellar cartography talk should have been the beginning of data overcoming this new challenge, not the end.

I honestly feel that the levity and humor it provided to the action adventure story was good in theory, even if it wasn't my cup of tea. There were definitely people laughing in the movie theatre when it played, so it works better for some.

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At first I thought, I have some opinions on Generations so why not weigh in. But after giving the posts a careful read I decided that this conversation evokes an image we'd all rather wasn't so true.
I can see William Shatner on SNL telling everyone to "get out of your parent's basement once in awhile!" ...or words to that effect.
Remember, it is better to remain silent and be suspected an idiot, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. I leave with the letters that have allowed civilization to persist, IMHO.

Well, I'd say don't feel so self-conscious about it, we're just having some fun talking about a 20 year movie! I know I won't think any less of you if you're critique is that people change their clothes during the movie or that Data's emotion chip is bigger than the last time we saw it... even if I don't agree with it.
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Old June 25 2013, 03:06 PM   #95
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Well, I'd say don't feel so self-conscious about it, we're just having some fun talking about a 20 year movie! I know I won't think any less of you if you're critique is that people change their clothes during the movie or that Data's emotion chip is bigger than the last time we saw it... even if I don't agree with it.
Of course you're right. But it's like dealing with all those lousy-driver-jerks on the road at rush hour. If they would just get out of my way my life could be perfect!
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Old June 28 2013, 06:52 PM   #96
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MickJo1701 wrote: View Post
Always preferred the Sovereign to the Galaxy Class, its a sleeker and sharper design (I've always seen it as a cross between the Constitution Refit and Intrepid Class) and after nearly 20 years it still holds up quite well. The Enterprise D on the other hand, while still being a fantastic design in its own right, was a product of its time.
So, what's wrong with that? I assume you see that as a bad thing?
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Old July 2 2013, 02:17 AM   #97
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MickJo1701 wrote: View Post
Always preferred the Sovereign to the Galaxy Class, its a sleeker and sharper design (I've always seen it as a cross between the Constitution Refit and Intrepid Class) and after nearly 20 years it still holds up quite well.
How is it holding up well? We haven't seen the ship for 11 years.

The Enterprise D on the other hand, while still being a fantastic design in its own right, was a product of its time.
That's an amusing statement. The Excelsior, Reliant, and the Klingon BoP were all designs from the mid-1980's, and while being products of their time, are still the most prominently seen Trek ships even today.
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Old July 2 2013, 04:26 AM   #98
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Generations is a Star Trek Movie. It has all the elements of Star Trek. The ship, the crew, special effects, etc. etc. etc.

Star Trek is like pizza. When it's good, it's really good. When it's bad, it's still pretty good.

I don't really notice movie soundtracks. Funny, as a musician you'd think I'd hone in on that. But not so much.

I agree with everything you have said. Generations has some plot holes but otherwise I still enjoy it.

I am also a musician and I have been surprised how many people are into movie sound tracks. I am not into them too much, yet there are times when they grab my attention (Jurassic Park) but I have always thought that the sound track should blend into a movie and enhance it but not stand out that much.
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