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Old June 25 2013, 08:50 PM   #16
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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire - Love and Hate

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Why do you think he's [Stannis] the best candidate for king?
Much of Stannis' story is told through the POV of Davos. Despite having been imprisoned and having his fingers cut off for being a smuggler, he still reveres the man due to his supposed extreme fairness and the ability to make measured decisions without being colored by emotion or bias. It is these qualities (in Davos' opinion) that makes Stannis the ideal king - the ultimate Solomon-esque benevolent ruler who governs with equal order and regularity.

Comparing Stannis to the kings we have seen, such as Robert and Joffrey (and to some extent, Robb, the "King in the North", who threw his entire campaign away by marrying Jeyne Westerling and not one of the Frey girls), he may have a point.

This is, BTW, the Stannis in the books. The Stannis in the show seems a little more driven by ego, which would normally be his downfall in traditional story-telling.
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Old June 25 2013, 10:51 PM   #17
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LOVE Varys! Like I said I was delighted when he showed up to do Kevan in. He's terrific because you can't quite tell what he means by "I'm working for the realm." But, given that he spirited Prince Aegon out of the country and worked with Illyrio to help Dany, he seems to be a Targaryen supporter?
That depends on whether Aegon is the real deal. He might be altogether fake or, since he was brought up in the Golden Company (founded by Daemon Blackfyre), he might be a descendant of the Blackfyre line.
In which case Varys would be a Blackfyre loyalist.
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Old June 26 2013, 12:03 AM   #18
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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire - Love and Hate

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So I guess my post is to find out - who do you love, who do you hate, who do you love to hate?
I love Jaime the most as his revelation about himself, his life and how he can turn it around was the most powerful part of my read through. My other favourites are Melisandre, Stannis, Arya and The Hound. Love pretty much all the characters though, even hated ones like Roose and Ramsay who I think are brilliant.

Don't hate any character but found Catelyn slightly dull sometimes.

And maybe, given GRRM's reputation and skill at pulling off major shockers - what plot points were the biggest shocks to you? Do you love them or hate them?
The most intense chapter to me in the whole series was the duel between the Red Viper and The Mountain. My heart was pounding faster with every new sentence. Really hope the show does it justice.
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