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Old June 23 2013, 02:03 AM   #631
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Re: The Defiance Thread - News about the Show and Game

So is it just a terraformed wasteland between St. Louis and the Bay area?
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Old June 23 2013, 03:22 AM   #632
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The game's entire storyline so far is about a man who was trying to reverse the terraforming. I doubt the show would use the exact same plot for Nicollete.
This isn't speculation. She's had dialogue to the effect that that's her goal.

And the whole point of doing this in two different mediums is that most people who watch the show won't play the game, and vice-versa. So it's not redundant to do parallel plots.


Its not as contrived as you think. Nolan and Irisa stole something very valuable from a Voltan "mafia boss" named Varis in San Francisco and fled into the wilds. A week later, they stumbled upon Defiance in the show's pilot.

If you think that's bad, Doc asked a friend in the Bay area for help developing a cure for the plague in last week's episode. And it was the players in the game who sent the cure to Defiance via an ICBM for Nolan and that e-rep guy to retrieve.
Yes, I'm aware of all of that, and it doesn't make it any less contrived. Between those, Rynn heading to the game setting after leaving the show, and the thing about the mercenaries, that's at least four completely unrelated story threads that connect Defiance to San Francisco. This is my whole point. Realistically, those unrelated threads would probably connect to several different cities. The more often there are random links between the same two cities, the more it strains credibility.
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Old June 23 2013, 05:39 AM   #633
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The more often there are random links between the same two cities, the more it strains credibility.
Unless the Bay area is the only city left west of Defiance and a dominant player in the new world.
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Old June 23 2013, 01:54 PM   #634
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^But what about east, north, and south???
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Old June 23 2013, 06:59 PM   #635
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The East is controlled by the Earth Republic.
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Old June 23 2013, 07:30 PM   #636
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^Yeah, and we do occasionally get references to the E-Rep having some influence over events in Defiance. But it's still pretty coincidental that Defiance and the Bay Area seem to be joined at the hip.
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Old June 23 2013, 09:52 PM   #637
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The game's entire storyline so far is about a man who was trying to reverse the terraforming. I doubt the show would use the exact same plot for Nicollete.
Could he be involved with Nicollete's plot? Have we been given any indicators that her plot couldn't involve people in places other than Defiance?
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Old June 23 2013, 10:19 PM   #638
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Given how closely the game and the show have been interlinked to date, I wouldn't be surprised if both their story arcs built to the same endgame by the season finale. Nicki's plot and Von Bach's are probably interconnected.
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Old June 24 2013, 10:36 AM   #639
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Wouldn't reversing the terraforming kill another 2 billion people on the planet?
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Old June 24 2013, 01:53 PM   #640
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Old June 24 2013, 08:15 PM   #641
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The terraforming is not the problem, they can adapt to that, it's all that fricking metal in the sky making TV impossible. This is why they had to legalize prostitution. No more television.

The Talaban would see this as proof from god that they are right.

Gotta wonder about the Votans trying to settle in that part of the world if it's really all that harmonious?
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Old June 24 2013, 09:02 PM   #642
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The terraforming is not the problem, they can adapt to that, it's all that fricking metal in the sky making TV impossible. This is why they had to legalize prostitution. No more television.
Suddenly it all makes sense . . ..
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Old June 25 2013, 11:35 AM   #643
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The Bride Wore Black: Well that was a helluva shock.

I particularly liked this bookend..

Doctor to Nicolette: "You know I've changed too. I've become a healer instead of a destroyer. And that's why I'm so sorry for what I have to do. But it's for the greater good."

Letter written by the Doctor, purporting to be Nicolette's note: "I told myself I was acting for the greater good. But that kind of thinking leads you down a dark road."

I know the Doctor said Nicolette was using the greater good as an excuse but I think she fully admits here to using it in the same way, and she wonders where her own choices will take her.

And NOW..



As to the rest of it, I enjoyed seeing younger, less slick Kenya. Well done.

I can see Stahma laughing over her own well played idea when she thinks about how Christie will react to wearing the blinder.

"Weddings are stupid", Irisa. Girl after my own heart.

Great visuals for it!



I'm pretty sure everything will go very sour though.. and not just because of the parents. The dear boy is not ready for a political marriage and there's no escaping that is what he has.



How is it that Tommy is suddenly like 10 years older than I thought he was?

How is it that no one smelled the body?

And finally I am always crapping on about this..

RAMBUTAN!



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Old June 25 2013, 11:46 AM   #644
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If only there was some alien tech that could fake insanity by projecting an avatar of the recently dead who will put forward insistently an agenda designed to somehow frakk up the world.

Is the show getting better or have I just lowered the bar so much, that it's impossible to make any more bad episodes?
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Old June 25 2013, 11:52 AM   #645
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It's getting faster and punchier. Which makes it better than it was at the beginning.
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