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Old June 24 2013, 11:17 PM   #2416
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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The amount FX pays for the TV rights is based on a percentage of domestic box office, so STID will make a little less than Star Trek, but it'll still be a good amount. The license fee FX pays is 10-12% of the ultimate domestic gross.

Edit to add: the weekend actual is $3,166,709 for $216,777,625 so far.

Small upwards rise in the actual, but what's good is that it made about $1 million or more 2 of the 3 days.
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Old June 24 2013, 11:20 PM   #2417
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Well yeh, that's what I had heard, but even from the posts here I wonder if it's more complicated than that. It would seem that there should be another nuTrek movie, but until Paramount announces there will be one (and it's made), it's not a given.
There can be all sorts of complicating factors - deals with equity partners, revenue from merchandising, etc - but as a broad rule of thumb if a sequelizable franchise movie grosses 2.5X its production budget then a sequel is a no-brainer.
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Old June 24 2013, 11:21 PM   #2418
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STID was sold to FX channel...ST09 made $30 million from it's sale, anyone want to bet STID made more?? Tack that on to the $430 million it's made already ($470-480 million)

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Pfft... are you trying to convince us that Trek isn't dead and that they're actually going to make another one ?
Nope, that's already a given, I just didnt expect FX to get the rights so soon.
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Old June 24 2013, 11:22 PM   #2419
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FX has been snapping up the TV rights very quickly to almost every big movie.
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Old June 24 2013, 11:29 PM   #2420
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Ok, guys, thanks, but I just wondered if the author had some "professional" knowledge of how movies are considered "hits" or not, for example she wrote an article in 2011 called "How much money does a movie need to make to be profitable": http://io9.com/5747305/how-much-mone...-be-profitable. I do hope Paramount will want to make another Trek movie, especially for 2016.
Even if a film has to make double its budget to be successful, STID is already past that threshold (190*2=380 million, it's well over $400 million worldwide). Everything is pretty much gravy now.
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Well yeh, that's what I had heard, but even from the posts here I wonder if it's more complicated than that. It would seem that there should be another nuTrek movie, but until Paramount announces there will be one (and it's made), it's not a given.
There can be all sorts of complicating factors - deals with equity partners, revenue from merchandising, etc - but as a broad rule of thumb if a sequelizable franchise movie grosses 2.5X its production budget then a sequel is a no-brainer.
Yes, and from all I've read here and other places, STID still has a little ways to go to reach 2.5X (maybe $462 Mil?), which it seems it will (especially after playing in Japan), so we still have to see how it finally shakes out. Well anyway, I just wanted more info so when on other internet sites, STID's grosses are criticized, I will have the right ammunition!
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Old June 24 2013, 11:35 PM   #2421
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Domestic: $216,611,000
+ Foreign: $213,400,000
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= Worldwide: $430,011,000
Source: Box Office Mojo

Adjusted top ST movies:

STID: $430,177,625 million
STTMP: $430 million
ST09: $408 million

Yeah, the top ST movie ever really underperformed...

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Old June 25 2013, 12:30 AM   #2422
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If only the domestic was stronger, we'd have a chance of this being the first ST movie to net 500 mil in the bag.

Do you think we'll get close? There's only really Japan for it to open in. Hopefully it will do as well there as it did in China
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Old June 25 2013, 12:44 AM   #2423
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If only the domestic was stronger, we'd have a chance of this being the first ST movie to net 500 mil in the bag.

Do you think we'll get close? There's only really Japan for it to open in. Hopefully it will do as well there as it did in China
I think it'll end up at $470-480 million.
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Old June 25 2013, 01:26 AM   #2424
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Im going to go out on a limb and say STID will hold steady next weekend for the holiday. $2.8-3 million.
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Old June 25 2013, 01:35 AM   #2425
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Long as that theater count doesn't continue to drop, that's possible...
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Old June 25 2013, 01:58 AM   #2426
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Weekend actuals from Box Office Mojo:


$3,166,709 weekend
$216,777,625 total
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Old June 25 2013, 05:27 AM   #2427
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So I guess it's totally out of the question that the movie will get up to 500 mill?
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Old June 25 2013, 03:56 PM   #2428
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So I guess it's totally out of the question that the movie will get up to 500 mill?
The 5 countries left to release only made about $12M (Or was it about $20M) for ST'09, so, yea, topping $500M is pretty unlikely. Topping $450 is pretty certain though, I believe.
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Old June 25 2013, 08:49 PM   #2429
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Monday number: $392,326 for $217,169,951 so far.
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Old June 25 2013, 10:46 PM   #2430
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Where do people think STID will top out at with the US gross.
$230 million?

I'm thinking the final figure is gonna be $455 to $460 million.

There's no justice when you see that Man of Steel is already at $400 million worldwide. Mind you, at least us Trekkies can console ourselves with the fact that we have the best critically rated summer movie (so far).
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