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Old June 24 2013, 12:06 AM   #16
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Re: A way Endgame could have been redeemed

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LOL Jeri, SO TRUE! When it's fixed by actual Treklit you know it was bad!
Exactly!
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Old June 24 2013, 12:12 AM   #17
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The more enjoyable way of doing Endgame would've just been a "Where are they now?" epilogue episode that shows that they DID get home, never bothered explaining how (I mean honestly, there are enough Wormholes and God Aliens to justify it) and just focused on there lives back on Earth.
I really like this idea.
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Old June 24 2013, 05:43 AM   #18
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I liked Endgame well enough, though I wish we could have had more about the crew after getting home. Still, Q getting involved would have made it fun.

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Old June 24 2013, 05:11 PM   #19
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Deadlock is the superior two Janeway episode, IMO. Kim's death is also a huge plus! Damn reset buttom

I do think that after having them all so desperate to get home, it would have been nice to see a few reunions for the crew and their families.
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Old June 24 2013, 09:36 PM   #20
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Re: A way Endgame could have been redeemed

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Endgame needs no redemption. It was one of the best Trek episodes ever made.


BEST JOKE EVER ! ! !

Man you made me laugh!
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Old June 24 2013, 09:41 PM   #21
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Re: A way Endgame could have been redeemed

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Endgame needs no redemption. It was one of the best Trek episodes ever made.


BEST JOKE EVER ! ! !

Man you made me laugh!
Eh... I can't say I much care for the episode either, but openly mocking someone who likes something you don't is rather petty... at best.
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Old June 24 2013, 10:06 PM   #22
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^ Given that we're called misogynists if we don't think Janeway is Goddess Herself, or pedophiles if we can live with C/7, I'd say mockery is pretty par for the course among Voyager fans.
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Old June 24 2013, 10:11 PM   #23
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Eh... I can't say I much care for the episode either, but openly mocking someone who likes something you don't is rather petty... at best.
Oh come of your high horse. The whole straight-face delivery of that post just made it sound really funny. Then again it might have all been scathing irony.

It wasn't my intention to hurt his feelings or ridicule him and he has my apologies if I made him feel bad. However, maybe he is also able to see how his comment might be viewed in a humorous way.
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Old June 24 2013, 10:14 PM   #24
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Eh... I can't say I much care for the episode either, but openly mocking someone who likes something you don't is rather petty... at best.
Oh come of your high horse. The whole straight-face delivery of that post just made it sound really funny. Then again it might have all been scathing irony.

It wasn't my intention to hurt his feelings or ridicule him and he has my apologies if I made him feel bad. However, maybe he is also able to see how his comment might be viewed in a humorous way.
Some valid points regarding his post, but they really don't excuse yours. It's good you didn't mean to ridicule him, but your could have delivered that far differently and still gotten your point across. But what do I know... being on a high horse and all?
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Old June 24 2013, 10:21 PM   #25
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You can't give in to extremists. "The best ever" is a mantra only a religious zombie would spew, and knock the teeth out of anyone who disagreed with them.

Anyway they got home, short of the full 70 years, would have been contrived, and has always been contrived and will always be contrived.

Take a page from Quantum Leap.

"And Voyager never made it home."

Because of who her father is, one of those *&^%es from Dirty Little Liars is going to own most of the rights to Quantum Leap some day.

Of course the last words I would have actually had from Janeway would have been "Fuck me! How the hell did we wind up in Andromeda?"

And then Paris says "I knew I should have taken that left turn at Albuquerque."

The end. Roll credits.
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Old June 24 2013, 10:47 PM   #26
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It would have been infinitely more preferable if Voyager had stumbled onto a spatial anomaly or a strange, powerful race that somehow got them home (not without difficulty, of course), instead of using the tired time travel plot to rescue them from the Delta Quadrant.

It just seemed like a cheap fix to me.
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Old June 24 2013, 10:56 PM   #27
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It would have been infinitely more preferable if Voyager had stumbled onto a spatial anomaly or a strange, powerful race that somehow got them home (not without difficulty, of course), instead of using the tired time travel plot to rescue them from the Delta Quadrant.

It just seemed like a cheap fix to me.
But I like time travel and I don't like strange powerful races.

If someone had told me, there's going to be time travel at the finale of Voyager and that will get them home I would have been like, YAY!!!!

But if you told me there's going to be a strange powerful race in the finale and that will get them home I would have been like

Things aren't right or wrong, they're just preferences.
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Old June 24 2013, 11:28 PM   #28
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I understand, sir. Infinitely more preferable for me.
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Old June 26 2013, 05:05 PM   #29
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Why roll eyes at the strange powerful race that got them home? Strange powerful race got them TO the Delta Quadrant...
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Old June 26 2013, 06:29 PM   #30
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Why roll eyes at the strange powerful race that got them home? Strange powerful race got them TO the Delta Quadrant...
I figured at first that the Susperia subplot would've lasted longer than one season and they'd use it more creatively than just another singular "will they get home" episode.
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