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Old June 22 2013, 05:20 AM   #226
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Re: Why would someone avoid STID but see Iron Man & Man Of Steel? spoi

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Because he likes Superman and Iron Man but doesn't like Star Trek.

Sort of like why I go to Allman Brothers' concerts but avoid Lady Gaga.
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Old June 22 2013, 05:27 AM   #227
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Re: Why would someone avoid STID but see Iron Man & Man Of Steel? spoi

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Because he likes Superman and Iron Man but doesn't like Star Trek.
And there we have it: some people really just want to see Iron Man.

The answer never needed to be any more complicated than that.
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Old June 22 2013, 05:29 AM   #228
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Re: Why would someone avoid STID but see Iron Man & Man Of Steel? spoi

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Because he likes Superman and Iron Man but doesn't like Star Trek.
That's logic.

It's very true, though. Why would the OP assume that somebody who likes superhero movies would give a two shits about Star Trek? I mean, realistically. They're all action movies, yes. But they're like completely different genres.
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Old June 22 2013, 10:50 AM   #229
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So you're really just agreeing with me in an oppositional manner.
Your claim is so ill-worded that I have no idea what you're saying, and your clarification didn't clarify, so I assumed you were talking about the general public. If you'd care to be clear about what you mean rather than let the confusion stand a third time around, I'd really appreciate it.

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nuTrek has one recent topic on the TOS forum--and the random posts, but certainly not at the volume of anti-TOS posts in this foseen here, where criticism of TOS actors, the TV series and movies can be found in several threads of page 1 & 2.
Again: only in response to criticisms and comparisons with new Trek made by other posters. Or perhaps you can point to posts made outside this context that bash TOS ?

At the end of the day, it is all just talk, but the anti-TOS reaction seems very insecure.
Insecure ? What are you talking about ?
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Old June 22 2013, 11:45 AM   #230
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Really, the need to come to the Abrams forum to big up TOS in the face of nuTrek's success could be as easily and accurately described as "insecure.". It's a meaningless, vapid claim.
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Old June 22 2013, 11:50 AM   #231
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Blibbityblabbing?

Don't blame me. I was responding to Carcazoid, who wrote: "By 'others' I meant a great big giant group of people in a group, or not, otherwise undefineable than by the fact that they won't see the movie because they've been turned off by the blibbityblab."
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Old June 22 2013, 12:47 PM   #232
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Back on topic:

Because he likes Superman and Iron Man but doesn't like Star Trek.
And there we have it: some people really just want to see Iron Man.

The answer never needed to be any more complicated than that.
And yet, we end up with over 16 pages of blippityblabbing
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Old June 22 2013, 05:14 PM   #233
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It's very true, though. Why would the OP assume that somebody who likes superhero movies would give a two shits about Star Trek? I mean, realistically. They're all action movies, yes. But they're like completely different genres.
Genres are a taxonomy. Fan preferences can span and overlap the various genres and are much more fluid at a personal and demographic level.

There is some intersection of fan interest between Star Trek, Iron Man, and Man Of Steel. Based on the box office numbers, the intersection is much smaller than I would believe and I'm perplexed. I wanted some input and started this thread.
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Old June 22 2013, 05:28 PM   #234
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Really, the need to come to the Abrams forum to big up TOS in the face of nuTrek's success could be as easily and accurately described as "insecure.". It's a meaningless, vapid claim.
There does seem to be an excessive amount of tilting and windmills.
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Old June 22 2013, 05:36 PM   #235
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Really, the need to come to the Abrams forum to big up TOS in the face of nuTrek's success could be as easily and accurately described as "insecure.". It's a meaningless, vapid claim.
There does seem to be an excessive amount of tilting and windmills.
My favorite complaint about the Abrams films is from one poster (who I shall not name) who complained about the E-surance ads, saying Star Trek had never done such blatant promotional ads before.
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Old June 22 2013, 07:22 PM   #236
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nuTrek has one recent topic on the TOS forum--and the random posts, but certainly not at the volume of anti-TOS posts in this foseen here, where criticism of TOS actors, the TV series and movies can be found in several threads of page 1 & 2.
Again: only in response to criticisms and comparisons with new Trek made by other posters. Or perhaps you can point to posts made outside this context that bash TOS ?
Nah, I think that tangent's been worked quite long enough, thank you.

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At the end of the day, it is all just talk, but the anti-TOS reaction seems very insecure.
Insecure ? What are you talking about ?
That one, too. Done.

If TREK_GOD is genuinely interested in discussing a supposed anti-TOS bias born of insecurity, then he's quite welcome to start a thread dedicated to that topic in an appropriate venue. But that venue is neither this thread nor this forum.

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Because he likes Superman and Iron Man but doesn't like Star Trek.
And there we have it: some people really just want to see Iron Man.

The answer never needed to be any more complicated than that.
And yet, we end up with over 16 pages of blippityblabbing
Pretty amazing, isn't it?
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Old June 23 2013, 03:59 AM   #237
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BTW, Man Of Steel has made as much money domestically in eleven days as Star Trek did in its first month.
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Old June 23 2013, 04:20 AM   #238
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BTW, Man Of Steel has made as much money domestically in eleven days as Star Trek did in its first month.
Sticking it in and twisting it a bit, Dennis?
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Old June 23 2013, 04:54 AM   #239
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Oh, I love both movies.
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Old June 24 2013, 01:03 AM   #240
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I'd really like to know... Man of Steel was just an out and out bad film that not only had objective pacing issues and hamfisted writing, but betrayed the character so badly that I can't even say it was Superman.

Iron Man... eh, big fun popcorn flick. Star Trek has an intellectual aura about it thanks to the series and then will never truly be as huge as a movie that, might be well written, but is all about the popcorn experience.

Still doesn't refute the simple nature that Star Trek is the better film of the three. Which is a bit surprising to me since I came into the year thinking MoS would be spectacular and Star Trek a big "meh". Exact opposite... well, no meh for MoS more like a "WTF is this steaming pile!"
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