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Old June 23 2013, 09:23 AM   #511
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Re: Coming July 2013: STAR TREK ENTERPRISE — RISE OF THE FEDERATION

I have, but its up to Christopher.
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Old June 23 2013, 09:31 AM   #512
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I have, but iss up to Christopher.
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Old June 23 2013, 01:39 PM   #513
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^I did describe the admiral's stripes in Chapter 1: "five alternating wide and narrow stripes." I assume that, as with the captain's stripes, the wide ones are on the outside, so it'd be wide, narrow, wide, narrow, wide.
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Old June 23 2013, 02:32 PM   #514
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^I did describe the admiral's stripes in Chapter 1: "five alternating wide and narrow stripes." I assume that, as with the captain's stripes, the wide ones are on the outside, so it'd be wide, narrow, wide, narrow, wide.
Are there Commodores, Rear Admirals and Vice Admirals in Starfleet in this era, with combinations of wide and narrow stripes ?
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Old June 23 2013, 02:49 PM   #515
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^I didn't work it out in that much detail.
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Old June 23 2013, 02:51 PM   #516
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^I didn't work it out in that much detail.
I'll leave it with you - I'm sure you'll have a few minutes spare sooner or later....
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Old June 23 2013, 03:26 PM   #517
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As for the uniforms, do you mean something along the lines of the undershirt from the Abramsverse? I could see that working myself.
No, I mean a full uniform in the same style as we're used to seeing in TOS (the ones in green, blue and red) just in black. So the SFMC as I envision them would wear a black uniform over that very same black undershirt.
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Old June 23 2013, 03:37 PM   #518
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I agree with the others -- black is just too "sinister" a color for Starfleet. And it's not really a good camouflage color (though, admittedly, neither is red).
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Old June 23 2013, 03:55 PM   #519
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^It'd be cool if their 'jersey' matched mission parameters. Camo, or white, or black. Whatever is best for the mission...
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Old June 23 2013, 04:00 PM   #520
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Black may be a bit sinister, but in this case, it probably SHOULD be.
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Old June 23 2013, 04:20 PM   #521
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^Why? We're talking Marines, not Section 31. Presumably they have the same rules of engagement as the rest of Starfleet, i.e. using no more force than necessary and making the protection of innocents a priority.
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Old June 23 2013, 04:23 PM   #522
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^ And I'm just talking about uniform color.
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Old June 23 2013, 05:03 PM   #523
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Not sure how I feel about the MACOS becoming Starfleet Security (I'm still sticking with a 'Starfleet Marine Corps' idea - I've always viewed Security as exclusively shipbound security guards, not front line troops) but otherwise, it's great.
Well, we've always been shown the same security personnel handling groundside and shipside matters, so that's what I aimed toward. And I wanted to have some tie back to elements of ENT, and to keep Kimura around as part of the crew.

Also, is there a retroactive source for the Defiant insignia as shown in "In a Mirror, Darkly"?
That's just the generic Starfleet emblem we saw throughout TOS -- it's seen on the "racing stripes" on the side of the Enterprise's engineering hull and on the shuttlecraft, and you can usually see it on the wall behind admirals on the viewscreen. I'm not sure what significance it would have in the 23rd-century scheme, but my intent was to keep things loose enough to suggest that my scheme could just be the ancestral form of whatever Starfleet's organizational framework has evolved into by TOS. The distinct fleet insignias could still represent separate fleets in the TOS era -- the Constellation coud've been administered by the Andorian Guard just as the Enterprise is administered by UESPA -- or the structure could've evolved into something else that uses those logos for historical reasons, the same way the historic UESPA arrowhead (whose chronologically earliest appearance is on the Friendship 1 probe) comes to be adopted by Starfleet as a whole by the TMP era.


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Christopher I like the new uniform designs how did you come up with the ideas for the different designs for uniform patches and signias for the different Starfleet uniforms?
The mission patches on the sleeves are following the precedent of ENT. I didn't design any specfic ones, and the Starfleet Command patch I described is the one seen in ENT. As for the insignias representing the fleets, I've felt for a long time that that was more likely than having a different one for each individual ship, since we saw a lot of non-Enterprise personnel wearing the arrowhead in "Court-martial." And we now know, thanks to its appearance on the Friendship 1 probe and on the enlisted rating emblems in ENT, that it was a UESPA insignia as far back as the 2060s. Given that Kirk said in the first season that the E was administered by UESPA, it seemed reasonable to assume the arrowhead represented the "UESPA fleet" and that the other ship insignias we saw represented other administrative divisions within Starfleet. As I said above, the European Space Agency provided the model for how early Starfleet could've been organized.

If you're asking how I chose the specific patches: well, the IDIC for Vulcan was obvious. The Antares emblem from "Charlie X" was a good match for Tellar because of its hooflike shape and because I chose them to handle supply and shipping, which would cover freighters. The Constellation "pretzel" looked vaguely like it could be Andorian script, and I figured maybe Decker's ship could've been assigned more to defense than exploration, given his rather aggressive attitude. And the Exeter insignia was the only canonical TOS-era one left, so it went to Alpha Centauri.


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It's going to be interesting to see how the fleets, themselves, are integrated. As McCoy observed in Ex Machina, most ships were done by their owner's races. It makes sense when we assume the Federation Starfleet is going to be a bunch of pre-existing Starfleets shoved together.
Initially, yes, but the book does explain why later Starfleet vessels all seem to conform to Earth design sensibilities.
Christopher thank you for answering my question this reallyi s interesting information that helps better to describe the new unifroms while reading your new novel.
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Old June 23 2013, 09:09 PM   #524
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Just got started but it seems to be seamlessly moving forward from the last Enterprise book. I am uncertain about Archer's condition since I do not recall any symptoms that he had in the post tv series novels. Is there an active link to the upgraded NX series ships, Christopher?
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Old June 23 2013, 10:12 PM   #525
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Just got started but it seems to be seamlessly moving forward from the last Enterprise book. I am uncertain about Archer's condition since I do not recall any symptoms that he had in the post tv series novels.
Keep reading. It's not "seamless" -- I've jumped forward over a year, and some changes have occurred in the interim.


Is there an active link to the upgraded NX series ships, Christopher?
It's essentially Doug Drexler's NX-refit design which was featured in the 2011 Ships of the Line calendar.
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