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Old June 21 2013, 03:56 PM   #16
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Of course the downside is, if you like a particular Doctor/vision you always fear the next one will be something you hate…
That's never happened to me. Sure, I don't love every episode, but, I enjoy all the Doctors and all the Eras.
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Old June 21 2013, 03:59 PM   #17
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^ For me, the change from Davison to Colin Baker was horrible when it happened. I've grown to appreciate Colin more since then.

For the new series, all the changes have been from one great actor to another.

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Old June 21 2013, 04:05 PM   #18
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Of course the downside is, if you like a particular Doctor/vision you always fear the next one will be something you hate…
Interestingly, I have never felt that. I've always been excited about the change. My intense distaste for Moffat's era actually came as a complete surprise to me. It even snuck up on me as, over the first half of his first season or so, I kept trying to convince myself that I still was enjoying it as much as ever. But by the end of that first season, I just couldn't lie to myself anymore....I had to admit to myself that the love was gone. *Sniff*

In all seriousness, I just really, really think his Mad Hatter-esque conception of the main character, his condescending fairy-tale tone, all of it just strikes me as utterly wrong for a science fiction television show that, over five decades, has proved again and again and again that it is NOT "just a kid's show", never has been, and absolutely deserves to be taken seriously.

Anyway....even if he leaves after one year, it's still pretty soon, and maybe the next showrunner will dislike Moffat's vision as much as I do, and then, maybe, we'll see something different.
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Old June 21 2013, 04:22 PM   #19
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The thing that I find interesting about those who don’t like Moffat is that they seem to split into two camps. The ‘It’s childish/dumbed down’ group and the ‘It’s overly complicated/not for kids’ group, I think the anti RTD brigade (and at times I was one of them) were a bit more unified about what they didn’t like about his era

I'd stress I'm not having a go at anyone, just saying what I see.

Maybe we'll all love Doctor 12 and (nu) showrunner 3...and on saturday nights we can watch Doctor Who then go outside to see the porcine display team in the sky
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Old June 21 2013, 04:32 PM   #20
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Despite some occassional lapses, Moffat's episodes still remain, by far, my favorite ones every season, so no, I really hope he doesn't leave anytime soon.

The other regular DW writers do some good stuff now and then, but I just find their storytelling to be way too conventional, and not nearly as witty or inventive.
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Old June 21 2013, 04:37 PM   #21
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I still think Noel Clarke should take over as showrunner when Steven Moffat leaves, although I'm in no hurry to see the Moff leave Doctor Who.
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Old June 21 2013, 04:37 PM   #22
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I wasn't overly keen on the Bells of St John, but blimey The Name of the Doctor reminded me why I like Moffat so much
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Old June 21 2013, 05:04 PM   #23
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Bells of St John reminded me way too much of a RTD era opening episode, a far cry from the likes of The Impossible Astronaut or Asylum of the Daleks.
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Old June 21 2013, 05:39 PM   #24
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Whithouse said that he'd like to be the showrunner after the one that comes after Moffat.

Being Human's expression was stagy in a very crude manner in its first 3 seasons, somewhat noticeable in his Who episodes too, but he managed to make a massive leap in quality for the last 2 seasons, replacing inconsequential, portentous discussions with subtly melodramatic details in plotting, and more inventive fantasy elements.

If he can keep that up for a few seasons in his upcoming spy show The Game, and Moffat stays for several years, there might not be need for another showrunner in between.
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Old June 21 2013, 06:08 PM   #25
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As speculation for the next doctor goes on moffat has sighned on for the next season. I was wondering what people here thought about moffat being in charge of season 8. I have heard that a lot of people think that moffat is spreading himself to thin with sherlock and that it is time for someone new to be incharge. Also if he was to step down who would you want to replace him i have heard some people think gaiman would do a good job.
I'd like to see Moffat leave soon, I don't like his style. But it seems unfair that we're stuck with him throughout Smiths era and the 50th, so we might as well endure him for one more series.

I think Gaiman would be an awful choice, he's only done two episodes, two average (in my mind) episodes. Doctors Wife was average (I re-watched it and revaluated it. I don't hate it, but I don't really like it much either. Idris was fucking annoying though), and Silver Nemesis was okay, but it failed to make the cybermen scary again. And they look plastic or fibre glass.

I think Mark Gatiss could work as a replacement. Mayve. He did write Cold War, one of the best Smith stories ever.

I'd also like to see some new blood though. Someone who would modernise doctor who.
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Old June 21 2013, 09:15 PM   #26
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I'd also like to see some new blood though. Someone who would modernise doctor who.
My first choice would be Michael Hirst.

Second choice? Bryan Fuller, but he's busy with Hannibal.

Third choice? Brannon Braga, but he's busy with Seth MacFarlane's COSMOS revival.

And yes, I'm totally serious about Braga. Doctor Who fits his sensibilities and is right in his wheelhouse.
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Old June 21 2013, 10:11 PM   #27
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^ No to Braga! Otherwise, totally open!
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Old June 21 2013, 10:12 PM   #28
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Bells of St John reminded me way too much of a RTD era opening episode, a far cry from the likes of The Impossible Astronaut or Asylum of the Daleks.
I agree, but I wonder if it wasn't an intentional homage, this being anniversary year and all...I might be reading more into it than is actually there but many of the 7B episodes seemed like homages to specific eras.
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Old June 22 2013, 01:25 AM   #29
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I don't like Moffat's character arcs. I really wanted Clara to be a normal companion, but instead we got another overly complicated back story.

That's the role companions play nowadays. They need something to do. They need to be a part of the season in some way.

Otherwise people would complain that the companions are just set pieces. They're just there. They don't contribute to the overall story.
They are supposed to be there as a contrast to the Doctor and the face of the audience. To bring the human side to the Tardis' journey, someone the audience can relate to when the shit hits the fan.

Adding mystery to the companion distracts from the story. I wish it would end. Hopefully 12's tenure will keep it that way now that Clara's backstory is revealed.
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