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Old June 21 2013, 03:09 AM   #1
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should moffat step down

As speculation for the next doctor goes on moffat has sighned on for the next season. I was wondering what people here thought about moffat being in charge of season 8. I have heard that a lot of people think that moffat is spreading himself to thin with sherlock and that it is time for someone new to be incharge. Also if he was to step down who would you want to replace him i have heard some people think gaiman would do a good job.
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Old June 21 2013, 04:05 AM   #2
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Can Gaiman produce a TV show? It's not just writing.
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Old June 21 2013, 05:17 AM   #3
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I don't like Moffat's character arcs. I really wanted Clara to be a normal companion, but instead we got another overly complicated back story.
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Old June 21 2013, 06:37 AM   #4
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I don't like Moffat's character arcs. I really wanted Clara to be a normal companion, but instead we got another overly complicated back story.

That's the role companions play nowadays. They need something to do. They need to be a part of the season in some way.

Otherwise people would complain that the companions are just set pieces. They're just there. They don't contribute to the overall story.
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Old June 21 2013, 09:23 AM   #5
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Having read a few interviews with Gaiman recently where the subject of his Who episode came up he made it clear that he found writing just one episode a huge endeavour, it really is a lot of work, especially if you're writing novels/comics/other film and TV at the same time. Frankly I'm not sure Gaiman would/could commit to that--plus to add that being a writer doesn't automatically make you a good show runner.

Oh and as a final point re Gaiman, the other problem is that his Who era would probably be too similar to Moffat's anyway in terms of its fairytale nature. Whether you like Moffat Who or not (and I do) the next showrunner's era shouldn't be more of the same.

Personally I want Moffat to do one more series at least, but maybe not more than that. Much as I felt with RTD I'd quite like it if he still wrote for the show in future but much like RTD I doubt he will

I think it would be very interesting to see Moffat chart the initial course of Doctor 12, but then someone else take over, we've yet to see--in the modern era-- the same Doctor through two different show runners' eyes.

As for who should take over eventually, who knows (pardon the pun) it's not like we have any say in it, and it might be a name we recognise it might not. Every name in the hat has pluses and minuses;

Toby Whithouse, I never saw Being Human but his Who work's been pretty good, well until A Town Called MErcy anyway, the only dud note of 7A for me.

Gatiss , knows Who inside out and has a lot of experience, though oddly before this year I’d always enjoyed his non Who writing more than his Who episodes, but then in 7B he gave us The Crimson Horror and Cold War, the two best episodes aside from The Name of the Doctor, so he’s higher up my list than he would have been six months ago! Given his love of the horrific we might get a more gothic Who from him.

Chibnall, there was a time I’d have potentially stopped watching if he took over. His Who episodes had been a bit bland and as for early Torchwood…but I really liked the work he did on 7A, and you can’t deny he’s racked up a lot of show runner experience. Still wouldn’t be keen but as with Gatiss I’d be far less apoplectic than I would have been at one time.

Personally I’d give the job to Joe Ahearne, oodles of experience as a director, writer and executive producer plus he hasn’t worked on Who since 2005 so it would be less of a case of the BBC promoting from within Who.
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Old June 21 2013, 10:03 AM   #6
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Re: should moffat step down

A Town Called Mercy was one of the few I liked in series 7. I loved Being Human, but I believe he's making a show for BBC Two anyway right now.
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Old June 21 2013, 11:44 AM   #7
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OK, I think they should get Dave McKean and Neil Gaiman as dual showrunners. Never gonna happen, but they are a great team.
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Old June 21 2013, 11:58 AM   #8
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I am more than happy for Moffat to continue...
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Old June 21 2013, 12:31 PM   #9
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I am more than happy for Moffat to continue...
Agreed, there will always be a section of the fanbase that will bitch and whine about the showrunner regardless of who it is and what they write because it isn't their idea of what Doctor Who should be.
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Old June 21 2013, 01:28 PM   #10
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I am more than happy for Moffat to continue...
Agreed, there will always be a section of the fanbase that will bitch and whine about the showrunner regardless of who it is and what they write because it isn't their idea of what Doctor Who should be.
It's not just what he's written in this case, it's the fact he has, for whatever reason, found it near-impossible to maintain the production pace of the RTD years.
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Old June 21 2013, 02:17 PM   #11
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No, I think he's got a couple of good years left in him!
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Old June 21 2013, 02:36 PM   #12
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Re: should moffat step down

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I am more than happy for Moffat to continue...
Agreed, there will always be a section of the fanbase that will bitch and whine about the showrunner regardless of who it is and what they write because it isn't their idea of what Doctor Who should be.
Yea, I've enjoyed the Moffat run with matt Smith, and I am looking forward to him writing for a new Doctor.

If it's true that the smaller number of episodes is because he's stretched too thin, rather than a budget constraint (Or other Big Brass reason) I would definitely like to see that resolved and go back to a full run, even if that run is shortened to only 10 episodes straight through a year + Christmas Special.
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Old June 21 2013, 02:41 PM   #13
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To clarify, I don't think Moffat should stand down unless he wants to, but if he did I'd like McKean & Gaiman.
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Old June 21 2013, 03:20 PM   #14
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Please God, let him stand down. I haven't been this put off by Doctor Who since the Colin Baker years, and I haven't been this bored since the middle Jon Pertwee years. And, for the record, I am not someone who just bitches about change. I have liked about 80% of all produced Doctor Who since the show began half a century ago, and I think Star Trek: TOS, TNG, and DS9 are all fantastic shows in different ways.

But Moffat's Doctor Who....man. It can't end soon enough.

Oh....and no offense to those who, for whatever reason I can't even begin to fathom, love his vision of the show. Different tastes, and all that.
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Old June 21 2013, 03:54 PM   #15
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Well that’s the great thing about Doctor Who, if you don’t like a Doctor or a particular vision of the show you know that eventually it is going to change (barring becoming so unpopular it’s canned but even then it’ll probably come back)

Of course the downside is, if you like a particular Doctor/vision you always fear the next one will be something you hate…
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