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Old June 20 2013, 08:40 PM   #256
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Can we send a probe into space to retrieve the original broadcast.. ya know like that 1985 movie Explorers ..lol
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Old June 20 2013, 08:57 PM   #257
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Can we send a probe into space to retrieve the original broadcast.. ya know like that 1985 movie Explorers ..lol
Well, aside from the fact that we'd need faster-than-light drive to catch up with old radio signals... the reality is that any radio and TV signals would pretty much be indistinguishable from cosmic background noise beyond maybe a light-year's distance. You'd need an antenna the size of a solar system to be sensitive enough to detect signal information from 40-50 ly away, and it would still probably be highly degraded.

So obviously what we really need is a TARDIS.
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Old June 20 2013, 08:57 PM   #258
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Can we send a probe into space to retrieve the original broadcast.. ya know like that 1985 movie Explorers ..lol
The signal would be far too degraded by now.
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Old June 20 2013, 09:08 PM   #259
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Can we send a probe into space to retrieve the original broadcast.. ya know like that 1985 movie Explorers ..lol
The signal would be far too degraded by now.
Hence the LOL
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Old June 20 2013, 09:10 PM   #260
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Can we send a probe into space to retrieve the original broadcast.. ya know like that 1985 movie Explorers ..lol
Well, aside from the fact that we'd need faster-than-light drive to catch up with old radio signals... the reality is that any radio and TV signals would pretty much be indistinguishable from cosmic background noise beyond maybe a light-year's distance. You'd need an antenna the size of a solar system to be sensitive enough to detect signal information from 40-50 ly away, and it would still probably be highly degraded.

So obviously what we really need is a TARDIS.
Ya know, it always comes down to this, and still... none of these "true fans" can be bothered to build the damned TARDIS and go get the episodes

And the Doctor, he's already got a TARDIS, and even he can't be bothered to get them for us
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Old June 20 2013, 09:11 PM   #261
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It's just going to be damn near impossible to find wiped episodes at this point. Especially with everyone looking. Not saying there will never be another episode found because we've had a few found in the last couple years. But finding anywhere close to the 100+ that are left is pretty much a pipe dream.
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Old June 20 2013, 09:50 PM   #262
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Can we send a probe into space to retrieve the original broadcast.. ya know like that 1985 movie Explorers ..lol
The signal would be far too degraded by now.
That's where the restoration team comes in...
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Old June 20 2013, 10:15 PM   #263
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Can we send a probe into space to retrieve the original broadcast.. ya know like that 1985 movie Explorers ..lol
Well, aside from the fact that we'd need faster-than-light drive to catch up with old radio signals... the reality is that any radio and TV signals would pretty much be indistinguishable from cosmic background noise beyond maybe a light-year's distance. You'd need an antenna the size of a solar system to be sensitive enough to detect signal information from 40-50 ly away, and it would still probably be highly degraded.

So obviously what we really need is a TARDIS.
Supposedly SETI is working on some advance mathematical method to separate the noise from the signal so don't give up hope yet.
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Old June 20 2013, 10:21 PM   #264
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There are just too many naysayers. It cost you nothing to hope for the best. I've seen some near impossible things happen (Thank you Yeezus for nuWho and Captain America/Iron Man/The Avengers, now about DS9 and Firefly).

Remember, hope is what keeps us alive!!
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Old June 20 2013, 10:27 PM   #265
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There are just too many naysayers. It cost you nothing to hope for the best. I've seen some near impossible things happen (Thank you Yeezus for nuWho and Captain America/Iron Man/The Avengers, now about DS9 and Firefly).

Remember, hope is what keeps us alive!!
It's not about hope. I'm an optimist at heart. But finding episodes that have been erased isn't an easy thing.
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Old June 20 2013, 10:35 PM   #266
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It's not about hope. I'm an optimist at heart. But finding episodes that have been erased isn't an easy thing.
Hope is not rational. That's why it's hope and not near certainty.
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Old June 20 2013, 11:21 PM   #267
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Supposedly SETI is working on some advance mathematical method to separate the noise from the signal so don't give up hope yet.
10 years ago you couldn't extract a colour signal from a black and white film recording either...
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Old June 20 2013, 11:47 PM   #268
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^None of which changes the fact that we can never catch up with signals that are travelling faster than light -- not without FTL technology which is probably unattainable. Unless some aliens out there intercept the signals and are kind enough to beam them back to us, or unless they hit some hitherto-undiscovered Space Mirror, we're out of luck.

(I actually came across a hoax news story a while back claiming that astronomers had detected old signals being bounced back by some kind of reflective phenomenon in space, and lost Doctor Who episodes were specifically mentioned as being among them. Apparently this hoax has been floating around the Internet for several years and occasionally gets re-reported by someone gullible enough to fall for it.)
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Old June 20 2013, 11:57 PM   #269
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(I actually came across a hoax news story a while back claiming that astronomers had detected old signals being bounced back by some kind of reflective phenomenon in space, and lost Doctor Who episodes were specifically mentioned as being among them. Apparently this hoax has been floating around the Internet for several years and occasionally gets re-reported by someone gullible enough to fall for it.)
<Raises hand in shame>

I read it in August, and saw it was April, but, didn't notice it was the first, the year 2009 I read as April 9, 2009

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Old June 21 2013, 12:06 AM   #270
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^Oh, right, I forgot it was an April Fool's Day prank rather than a hoax per se.
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