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Old June 19 2013, 06:22 PM   #196
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Re: Wiped Episode Discoveries

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If there is no truth to the rumor, they'd better state that ASAP otherwise there will be a lot of bitter fans. If there's no truth, it's in their power to let us know. I will be annoyed if there's nothing to it and they don't tell us straight away.
I don't mean this in a bad way, but fans really don't matter to the BBC. If fans get their hopes dashed over the non-appearance of forty-plus year-old episodes, that's not going to keep them away from the new episodes. For the brand managers of Doctor Who, missing episodes are nothing more than a curiosity that have no bearing on what they're doing with the property. The people at the BBC that would have the most interest in missing episodes would be BBC Worldwide since the episodes would give them more product to sell, but BBC Worldwide doesn't drive the brand.
Maybe not, but the only reason the original show is on DVD is because it sells, and sells in viable numbers. It doesn't sell to kids and fans of the new show, it sells to fans of the old show (who admittedly could be kids !).

They aren't just simple transfers either - a lot of work goes into some of them and the bonus content. Goodwill from enthusiasts only takes you so far - there IS support for old Who within the BBC.
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Old June 19 2013, 06:27 PM   #197
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They could get an army of people to work on restoring the footage for free if they wanted to, that how desperate some fans are to get these back.
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Old June 19 2013, 10:00 PM   #198
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They could get an army of people to work on restoring the footage for free if they wanted to, that how desperate some fans are to get these back.
I wonder what the release schedule would be like should there really be a large number of shows. Are the restoration team even capable of tackling that much work in a reasonable time ?
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Old June 19 2013, 10:04 PM   #199
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My very slight curiosity about the guy has been satisfied so no need for more research! However, I do plan to get that book because I am particularly interested in JNT's time. Davison is "my Doctor" even though I started watching with Tom Baker.

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Cool, it's excellent.... and terrible all at the same time

Meanwhile, the Radio Times is the latest to weigh in...
So now we're shifting from Zambia to Sierra Leone, which we all know lost it's archive in 2001 during the civil war.

And it's a TIE archive? That would make the most sense as it would be likely to have MOST of the serials ever sold around the world.

The rumour keeps shifting too much for my liking...
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Old June 19 2013, 10:11 PM   #200
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Re: Wiped Episode Discoveries

Candlelight wrote: View Post
Atticus wrote: View Post
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My very slight curiosity about the guy has been satisfied so no need for more research! However, I do plan to get that book because I am particularly interested in JNT's time. Davison is "my Doctor" even though I started watching with Tom Baker.

Mr Awe
Cool, it's excellent.... and terrible all at the same time

Meanwhile, the Radio Times is the latest to weigh in...
So now we're shifting from Zambia to Sierra Leone, which we all know lost it's archive in 2001 during the civil war.

And it's a TIE archive? That would make the most sense as it would be likely to have MOST of the serials ever sold around the world.

The rumour keeps shifting too much for my liking...
Or more likely Radio Times got their facts mixed up in regards to Sierra Leone.
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Old June 19 2013, 10:12 PM   #201
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Ian is now going silent:

I have lost some very close friends through discussing all these rumours. I find that unbearable and so, despite my excitement I'm ending it

Ending ALL discussion of it on Twitter.
Sincere to stop 'hurting' more people or coincidence he did it shortly after the BBC announcement...?
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Old June 19 2013, 10:15 PM   #202
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Re: Wiped Episode Discoveries

Candlelight wrote: View Post
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My very slight curiosity about the guy has been satisfied so no need for more research! However, I do plan to get that book because I am particularly interested in JNT's time. Davison is "my Doctor" even though I started watching with Tom Baker.

Mr Awe
Cool, it's excellent.... and terrible all at the same time

Meanwhile, the Radio Times is the latest to weigh in...
So now we're shifting from Zambia to Sierra Leone, which we all know lost it's archive in 2001 during the civil war.

And it's a TIE archive? That would make the most sense as it would be likely to have MOST of the serials ever sold around the world.

The rumour keeps shifting too much for my liking...
Maybe the Sierra Leone Archive loss in the Civil War was a feint? Maybe the engineer was smuggling the film cans out, and used the Civil War as a cover and he actually blew it up himself when he was done

Or, we're back to Somali Pirates hijacked the Singapore shipment, and the Engineer was a frontman for the Pirates
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Old June 19 2013, 10:16 PM   #203
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Ian is now going silent:

I have lost some very close friends through discussing all these rumours. I find that unbearable and so, despite my excitement I'm ending it

Ending ALL discussion of it on Twitter.
Sincere to stop 'hurting' more people or coincidence he did it shortly after the BBC announcement...?
This isn't the first time he's acted like a prima donna (so I've read). According to the folks over at Gallifrey Base, he did the same thing after he let the cat out of the bag in regards to Matt Smith leaving.
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Old June 19 2013, 10:20 PM   #204
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Re: Wiped Episode Discoveries

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Cool, it's excellent.... and terrible all at the same time

Meanwhile, the Radio Times is the latest to weigh in...
So now we're shifting from Zambia to Sierra Leone, which we all know lost it's archive in 2001 during the civil war.

And it's a TIE archive? That would make the most sense as it would be likely to have MOST of the serials ever sold around the world.

The rumour keeps shifting too much for my liking...
Maybe the Sierra Leone Archive loss in the Civil War was a feint? Maybe the engineer was smuggling the film cans out, and used the Civil War as a cover and he actually blew it up himself when he was done

Or, we're back to Somali Pirates hijacked the Singapore shipment, and the Engineer was a frontman for the Pirates
Sierra Leone's Doctor Who shipment was last known to exist in their archive in 1999, which was destroyed sometime over the following three years. If the films had been moved out prior to the archive's destruction then the documentation discovered in 2010 may not reflect this.

You can only follow the last breadcrumb you find, not the full path.
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Old June 19 2013, 10:23 PM   #205
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Re: Wiped Episode Discoveries

Candlelight wrote: View Post
Sindatur wrote: View Post
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So now we're shifting from Zambia to Sierra Leone, which we all know lost it's archive in 2001 during the civil war.

And it's a TIE archive? That would make the most sense as it would be likely to have MOST of the serials ever sold around the world.

The rumour keeps shifting too much for my liking...
Maybe the Sierra Leone Archive loss in the Civil War was a feint? Maybe the engineer was smuggling the film cans out, and used the Civil War as a cover and he actually blew it up himself when he was done

Or, we're back to Somali Pirates hijacked the Singapore shipment, and the Engineer was a frontman for the Pirates
Sierra Leone's Doctor Who shipment was last known to exist in their archive in 1999, which was destroyed sometime over the following three years. If the films had been moved out prior to the archive's destruction then the documentation discovered in 2010 may not reflect this.

You can only follow the last breadcrumb you find, not the full path.
Like I said in my post (which you might have missed at the end of the last page), I think it's more likely Radio Times got their facts mixed up.
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Old June 19 2013, 10:45 PM   #206
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Maybe the Sierra Leone Archive loss in the Civil War was a feint? Maybe the engineer was smuggling the film cans out, and used the Civil War as a cover and he actually blew it up himself when he was done

Or, we're back to Somali Pirates hijacked the Singapore shipment, and the Engineer was a frontman for the Pirates
Sierra Leone's Doctor Who shipment was last known to exist in their archive in 1999, which was destroyed sometime over the following three years. If the films had been moved out prior to the archive's destruction then the documentation discovered in 2010 may not reflect this.

You can only follow the last breadcrumb you find, not the full path.
Like I said in my post (which you might have missed at the end of the last page), I think it's more likely Radio Times got their facts mixed up.
No I saw it, merely commenting that the established story of Sierra Leone may not be true.

Which I doubt, I'm just suggesting.
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Old June 19 2013, 11:22 PM   #207
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Ian is now going silent:

I have lost some very close friends through discussing all these rumours. I find that unbearable and so, despite my excitement I'm ending it

Ending ALL discussion of it on Twitter.
Sincere to stop 'hurting' more people or coincidence he did it shortly after the BBC announcement...?
It wasn't so much an announcement, more of a "no comment".

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Old June 19 2013, 11:33 PM   #208
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I'm now almost convinced that SOMETHING has been found. The BBC just don't want to announce anything right now.
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Old June 19 2013, 11:51 PM   #209
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I'm now almost convinced that SOMETHING has been found. The BBC just don't want to announce anything right now.
Personally I think the only thing holding back an announcement IF something has been found would be an arrangement with the BFI (who "barefaced" lied to Ian) about screening something at this year's Missing Believed Wiped event.

Only problem with that is the event is normally held in December.

I can't see what else would hold them back. It wouldn't take two years to sort through a stockpile of file cans, and I have no idea what negotiations would be going on (unless the owners of the "TIE archive" which was found are being picky about something; although if the films are already back in the UK...??).

Don't know. Will see.

I still don't think it would be 90 episodes. If it's Zambia then 71 at most...
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Old June 19 2013, 11:56 PM   #210
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Yep, think you're right Candelight. Back when this all started, I'd assumed that the Sierra Leone near miss had led to a similar lead and we might get season three back. If TIE comes into it, then it could be more.
But... if you're putting 2 and 2 together to get 5, then TIE is one of the 2s you'd put in. It's one of the best avenues to explore in the hope of a big find, but that makes it the sort of detail to add in to make sense of a rumour...
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