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Old June 19 2013, 04:11 PM   #1
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Could Vilix'pran be Betelgeusian?

The mysterious (and very fertile) Lieutenant Vilix'pran is a character that has always intregued me. Going by what was said about him its a shame we never got to see the winged species.

That has just got me thinking; could he be Betelgeusian? Jake said about babysitting his young, needing to watch that their wings didn't get tangled. Going by the background notes on TMP the Betelgeusians had evolved from avians, and seeing as how we never saw one clearly there's no way to know if they still retain their wings or not.

Thoughts?
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Old June 19 2013, 04:30 PM   #2
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^Not enough information to know either way.

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Old June 19 2013, 04:53 PM   #3
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Re: Could Vilix'pran be Betelgeusian?

There is one Betelgeusian seen full-length in the TMP rec-room briefing scene -- he's the third guy from the right on the balcony, in a brown uniform.

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/t....php?album=581

He's clearly humanoid in shape, with no wings.

There's also a pretty good shot of the Betelgeusian science officer (whom I named Hrrii'ush Uuvu'it in my novels) here at Memory Alpha.

Vilix'pran was pretty much meant to be nonhumanoid, which suggests not just a human shape with wings stuck on, but something more radically different in body shape. That was the point of the running gag: since he was never seen, he could be as bizarrely nonhumanoid as the writers' imaginations could make him.
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Old June 19 2013, 05:44 PM   #4
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Re: Could Vilix'pran be Betelgeusian?

Yeah, it would be like Morn talking. If we actually saw the guy it'd ruin the novelty of it.
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Old June 19 2013, 06:26 PM   #5
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^And Captain Boday's see-through skull. The DS9 producers loved their "off-camera" running gags.
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Old June 19 2013, 07:51 PM   #6
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There's a guy with a blue and purple face among the crew in TMP. I wonder what species he is.

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Old June 19 2013, 08:06 PM   #7
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^And Captain Boday's see-through skull. The DS9 producers loved their "off-camera" running gags.
It's one of the tings that helped make the series great
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Old June 19 2013, 08:10 PM   #8
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It's one of the tings that helped make the series great
I always laughed whenever Dax and Kira would argue about Boday. Dax didn't care what anyone looked like, and Kira got hung up on every irregularity that someone had. Then there was Dr. Tregtoc...

"His eye bothers me."

"Which one?"

"The middle one."
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Old June 19 2013, 08:14 PM   #9
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There's a guy with a blue and purple face among the crew in TMP. I wonder what species he is.

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Not seeing him. I do spot blue Andorians and purple Saurians, but not seeing any blue/purple crewmembers.

TMP was really good at giving us some weird and wonderful species, such a shame we didn't get to see more of them.
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Old June 19 2013, 08:38 PM   #10
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Not seeing him. I do spot blue Andorians and purple Saurians, but not seeing any blue/purple crewmembers.
You can see him in one of the close-up shots where the first few rows are isolated. He'd be towards the top of the picture.

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Old June 19 2013, 08:49 PM   #11
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I think you must be referring to the Betelgeusian science officer I already linked to a picture of:

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/File...ce_officer.jpg

That is a blue and purple face.
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Old June 19 2013, 08:56 PM   #12
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I think you must be referring to the Betelgeusian science officer I already linked to a picture of:

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/File...ce_officer.jpg

That is a blue and purple face.
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Old June 20 2013, 03:34 PM   #13
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Re: Could Vilix'pran be Betelgeusian?

There's a full photo of the Betelgeusian Ambassador in the original soundtrack LP for STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE. The innersleeve featured 12 photos of "new" aliens posed in- costume.



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Old June 20 2013, 03:40 PM   #14
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Re: Could Vilix'pran be Betelgeusian?

You know, I thought this thread seemed familiar. Bry Sinclair, you started another thread asking this exact same question just 14 months ago, and I gave you the same answer then. And we also got around to mentioning Morn, Captain Boday, and Dr. Trag'tok.
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Re: Could Vilix'pran be Betelgeusian?

Bry_Sinclair wrote: View Post
The mysterious (and very fertile) Lieutenant Vilix'pran is a character that has always intregued me. Going by what was said about him its a shame we never got to see the winged species.

That has just got me thinking; could he be Betelgeusian? Jake said about babysitting his young, needing to watch that their wings didn't get tangled. Going by the background notes on TMP the Betelgeusians had evolved from avians, and seeing as how we never saw one clearly there's no way to know if they still retain their wings or not.

Thoughts?
Unless their wings are some sort of vestigial thing that go away as they mature?
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