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View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
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A 53 21.12%
A- 46 18.33%
B+ 25 9.96%
B 27 10.76%
B- 11 4.38%
C+ 13 5.18%
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Old June 19 2013, 12:33 AM   #451
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I had heard of the show but never seen it and don't know much about it.

So the idea isn't unprecedented. The question stands: would such a film have been a good vehicle for the reboot?
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Old June 19 2013, 12:33 AM   #452
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There's a "Man of Steel" prequel comic that focuses on Kara.


Wow, even when Kryptonian's wet the bed, they super-wet-the-bed.
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Old June 19 2013, 12:41 AM   #453
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If anyone's interested, io9.com has just posted an excerpt from the book. Chapter Two, to be exact, featuring Jor-El's adventures on Krypton.
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Old June 19 2013, 12:47 AM   #454
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Kryptonians also like skimpy bed clothes.
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Old June 19 2013, 12:52 AM   #455
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So the idea isn't unprecedented. The question stands: would such a film have been a good vehicle for the reboot?
It's an excellent premise of a TV series, but I don't know how it would sell as a feature. Plus it's totally dependent on who they cast as Lois. I still think Hatcher is the best Lois to date, and I think whoever would be cast in such a film would have to be even better.
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Old June 19 2013, 01:00 AM   #456
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I'm open to seeing a Superman film done in a different style and genre, but not as a chick flick romantic comedy.
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Old June 19 2013, 01:03 AM   #457
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So the idea isn't unprecedented. The question stands: would such a film have been a good vehicle for the reboot?
It's an excellent premise of a TV series, but I don't know how it would sell as a feature. Plus it's totally dependent on who they cast as Lois. I still think Hatcher is the best Lois to date, and I think whoever would be cast in such a film would have to be even better.
I hadn't thought much of casting. Certainly, elevating the character to main protagonist would make demands of the actress not made of other actresses who have played Lois. Any ideas of who would be a good candidate for the role?

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I'm open to seeing a Superman film done in a different style and genre, but not as a chick flick romantic comedy.
I wasn't thinking romcom. A romance, yes, but taken seriously.

And the conventional superheroics and big action sequences would still be there, but in the service of a more down-to-earth anthropocentric story.
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Old June 19 2013, 01:26 AM   #458
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I hadn't thought much of casting. Certainly, elevating the character to main protagonist would make demands of the actress not made of other actresses who have played Lois. Any ideas of who would be a good candidate for the role?
It's hard to say. Unfortunately, Dana Delany is almost 60. She still looks amazing and not a day over 40, but I think any chance of her playing Lois has passed, sadly.

Otherwise, Adams certainly has the chops, but it's more a matter of fit. And that's hard to judge without a frame of reference. Also, the chemistry would have to be better. Her and Cavil's chemistry wasn't that great. It wasn't terrible by any means, but in that type of environment, it would have to be much better. Nothing kills a romantic movie faster than a lack of chemistry between leads.

Cain and Hatcher's chemistry was so good that there were types you'd think they'd just run off for a snog between takes.

And say what you will about Smallville, but Welling and Durance also had amazing chemistry. Their relationship was the one thing the show can say it did really well, and was holding things together those last few meandering seasons.

All that said, it's only fair to point out Cavil and Adams didn't really have much romantic screen-time together. For all we know, MoS2 could focus primarily on their relationship and their chemistry my turn out to be great.
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Old June 19 2013, 01:39 AM   #459
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I hadn't thought much of casting. Certainly, elevating the character to main protagonist would make demands of the actress not made of other actresses who have played Lois. Any ideas of who would be a good candidate for the role?
It's hard to say. Unfortunately, Dana Delany is almost 60. She still looks amazing and not a day over 40, but I think any chance of her playing Lois has passed, sadly.
Speaking of actresses for whom it is too late, the STM DVD extras include screen tests of Margot Kidder and other actresses auditioning for the part. I loved what Stockard Channing brought to it. It would have been interesting to see those films with her instead of Kidder. Apparently Donner felt that she came across as too tough and smart to be an effective damsel in distress.
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Old June 19 2013, 01:57 AM   #460
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What do you think? Would this have been a good approach for the reboot?
This just sounds really dull.

When I go and plop down $15-a-ticket, I want to see a spectacle with amazing special effects and earth-shattering sound.

Man of Steel was exactly what I was looking for.
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Old June 19 2013, 02:01 AM   #461
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It's never too late.

Kingdom Come.

Kingdom Come is a comic book about the end when they are all as old as dirt and the Super heroes all, well most of them, die.
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Old June 19 2013, 02:22 AM   #462
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What do you think? Would this have been a good approach for the reboot?
This just sounds really dull.

When I go and plop down $15-a-ticket, I want to see a spectacle with amazing special effects and earth-shattering sound.
The amazing special effects and earth-shattering sound would still be there, but they'd be serving the story rather than vice versa. That appeals to critics and to moviegoers who aren't ordinarily fans of the genre. The idea is to be a superhero movie, but not just a superhero movie.

Admittedly, in my proposal the amazing special effects and earth-shattering sound would start about halfway through the film, rather than from the opening shot. If that's the only thing that interests you, you might get antsy waiting for it. Shoot 'Em Up this ain't.
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Old June 19 2013, 02:51 AM   #463
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The idea is to be a superhero movie, but not just a superhero movie.
But what's wrong with being just a superhero movie? Man of Steel is looking to be very popular across a large spectrum of ticket buyers.

Sometimes it's best not to try to fix something that obviously isn't broken.
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Old June 19 2013, 02:58 AM   #464
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At the end, when he kills Zod to save a family, was it just me, or was it bad direction, when the family he saved vanishes from all subsequent shots?
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Old June 19 2013, 03:20 AM   #465
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I just remembered a thought I had during the Battle of Smallville. I kept wondering if that big guy he who was fighting with Faora could have been Non.
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