RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 135,720
Posts: 5,214,753
Members: 24,211
Currently online: 852
Newest member: dmhp32


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Star Trek Movies > Star Trek Movies XI+

Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old June 18 2013, 10:09 PM   #16
Enterprise is Great
Rear Admiral
 
Enterprise is Great's Avatar
 
Re: Why would someone avoid STID but see Iron Man & Man Of Steel? spoi

Comic books and comic book based movies just don't have the stigma attached to them in the way Star Trek does. Comic books and comic book based movies have overcome the stigma or the most part.
__________________
JJverse Star Trek...ROCKED on May 17, 2013 and beyond!
Enterprise is Great is online now   Reply With Quote
Old June 18 2013, 10:35 PM   #17
Belz...
Fleet Captain
 
Belz...'s Avatar
 
Location: In a finely-crafted cosmos... of my own making.
Re: Why would someone avoid STID but see Iron Man & Man Of Steel? spoi

I'm not sure there's much stigma attached to Trek anymore. Anyone that thought so back in the early 90s is 20 years older now, and 2009 changed a lot of opinions, I think
__________________
And that's my opinion.

The Onmyouza Theatre: an unofficial international fanclub dedicated to the Japanese heavy metal band Onmyo-Za.
Belz... is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18 2013, 10:50 PM   #18
BillJ
Admiral
 
Location: In the 23rd Century...
View BillJ's Twitter Profile
Re: Why would someone avoid STID but see Iron Man & Man Of Steel? spoi

I think audiences simply have an easier time connecting with contemporary action/sci-fi vs. futuristic action/sci-fi.

I wouldn't be surprised if the bulk of the next film takes place during the 20th/21st century. Perhaps we will actually get to see the Eugenics War plus you have a natural reason to bring back Cumberbatch.

Kirk fighting Khan on his home turf.
__________________
I'm not popular enough to be different! - Homer Simpson
BillJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18 2013, 10:53 PM   #19
The Keeper
Commodore
 
The Keeper's Avatar
 
Location: Where reality ends and illusion begins
Re: Why would someone avoid STID but see Iron Man & Man Of Steel? spoi

I went to a late August, early September screening of ST09 in IMAX. Waiting for the film to start I overheard some joker behind me state: "This movie better not turn my son into a nerd."

If that ended up being the case for his son I do not know, but I kind of hope it did.
The Keeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18 2013, 11:05 PM   #20
Ryan8bit
Commodore
 
Ryan8bit's Avatar
 
Location: St. Paul, MN
Re: Why would someone avoid STID but see Iron Man & Man Of Steel? spoi

Belz... wrote: View Post
I'm not sure there's much stigma attached to Trek anymore. Anyone that thought so back in the early 90s is 20 years older now, and 2009 changed a lot of opinions, I think
When I spoke of stigma, I meant the flops at the box office and on TV. Trek was on a downward spiral and I think it's great that JJ has been able to be as successful with it as he has been given that history. I'm not sure how we could expect that much more.
Ryan8bit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18 2013, 11:09 PM   #21
CorporalClegg
Vice Admiral
 
Re: Why would someone avoid STID but see Iron Man & Man Of Steel? spoi

The Keeper wrote: View Post
I went to a late August, early September screening of ST09 in IMAX. Waiting for the film to start I overheard some joker behind me state: "This movie better not turn my son into a nerd."

If that ended up being the case for his son I do not know, but I kind of hope it did.
Why would anyone wish such ill will on his son? Nerds get more action than jocks these days.
__________________
I haven't much to say.
CorporalClegg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18 2013, 11:11 PM   #22
Dream
Admiral
 
Dream's Avatar
 
Re: Why would someone avoid STID but see Iron Man & Man Of Steel? spoi

The third biggest movie of all time is a superhero movie.
__________________
=)
Dream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18 2013, 11:13 PM   #23
Hober Mallow
Commodore
 
Location: The planet Terminus, site of the Encyclopedia Foundation on the periphery of the galaxy
Re: Why would someone avoid STID but see Iron Man & Man Of Steel? spoi

The Keeper wrote: View Post
Very puzzling, especially given the fact MoS also rehashes a villain with previous big screen exposure.
Star Trek isn't in the same league with Superman. It's not even close.

Or, maybe not so puzzling, if we're willing to at least consider the possibility MoS rehashes Zod in a better way than ID rehashes Khan? *slaps self for even thinking such blasphemy*

Would taking the time to fill in all the Khan back-story, even if they totally retconned it, made it longer to compensate that time taken, have better resonated with audiences the way MoS seems to be doing?
How would that have helped? You have to get the people into the theater first to see it.
__________________
"Beep... beep!" --Captain Pike
Hober Mallow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18 2013, 11:14 PM   #24
LobsterAfternoon
Commander
 
LobsterAfternoon's Avatar
 
Re: Why would someone avoid STID but see Iron Man & Man Of Steel? spoi

I just saw Man of Steel, I'd hesitate to call it better written than STID. It's, I suppose, more accessible, if you like to see origin sequences that take 2.5 hours.
LobsterAfternoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18 2013, 11:45 PM   #25
Phily B
Fleet Captain
 
Phily B's Avatar
 
Location: United Kingdom
View Phily B's Twitter Profile
Re: Why would someone avoid STID but see Iron Man & Man Of Steel? spoi

Superhero movies are more relatable to current day problems and popular than sci-fi movies set 300 years into the future?
Phily B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18 2013, 11:47 PM   #26
Belz...
Fleet Captain
 
Belz...'s Avatar
 
Location: In a finely-crafted cosmos... of my own making.
Re: Why would someone avoid STID but see Iron Man & Man Of Steel? spoi

CorporalClegg wrote: View Post
Why would anyone wish such ill will on his son? Nerds get more action than jocks these days.
And isn't that sweet irony ?

Ryan8bit wrote: View Post
When I spoke of stigma, I meant the flops at the box office and on TV. Trek was on a downward spiral and I think it's great that JJ has been able to be as successful with it as he has been given that history. I'm not sure how we could expect that much more.
Then I guess the stigma's pretty much gone even by that standard.

LobsterAfternoon wrote: View Post
I just saw Man of Steel, I'd hesitate to call it better written than STID. It's, I suppose, more accessible, if you like to see origin sequences that take 2.5 hours.
You mean like the last Star Trek movie ?
__________________
And that's my opinion.

The Onmyouza Theatre: an unofficial international fanclub dedicated to the Japanese heavy metal band Onmyo-Za.
Belz... is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18 2013, 11:55 PM   #27
Kruezerman
Fleet Captain
 
Kruezerman's Avatar
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Re: Why would someone avoid STID but see Iron Man & Man Of Steel? spoi

Trek is beating the crap out of Superman on Rotten Tomatoes.
__________________
The self proclaimed Angry Mexican man of TNZ. You're welcome.
Kruezerman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 19 2013, 12:15 AM   #28
DaleC76
Captain
 
DaleC76's Avatar
 
Location: The State of Alabama
Re: Why would someone avoid STID but see Iron Man & Man Of Steel? spoi

Super hero movies have millions of children begging to go see them. I don't think Star Trek has that going for them (although I did as a youngster).
__________________
I am created Shiva, the Destroyer; death, the shatterer of worlds. The dead night tiger made whole by the Master of Sinanju. Who is this dog meat that dares challenge me?
DaleC76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 19 2013, 12:38 AM   #29
Belz...
Fleet Captain
 
Belz...'s Avatar
 
Location: In a finely-crafted cosmos... of my own making.
Re: Why would someone avoid STID but see Iron Man & Man Of Steel? spoi

Kruezerman wrote: View Post
Trek is beating the crap out of Superman on Rotten Tomatoes.
Which no one cares about.

Certainly, that the critics like a movie can help you see if it's well-made, but ultimately the question is: do you enjoy it ? And I did, so screw the critics on this one.
__________________
And that's my opinion.

The Onmyouza Theatre: an unofficial international fanclub dedicated to the Japanese heavy metal band Onmyo-Za.
Belz... is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 19 2013, 01:49 AM   #30
Kruezerman
Fleet Captain
 
Kruezerman's Avatar
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Re: Why would someone avoid STID but see Iron Man & Man Of Steel? spoi

Belz... wrote: View Post
Kruezerman wrote: View Post
Trek is beating the crap out of Superman on Rotten Tomatoes.
Which no one cares about.

Certainly, that the critics like a movie can help you see if it's well-made, but ultimately the question is: do you enjoy it ? And I did, so screw the critics on this one.
I'm just saying.

I haven't seen Superman yet (I'm not really into superheroes) but I'm looking forward to it.
__________________
The self proclaimed Angry Mexican man of TNZ. You're welcome.
Kruezerman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:18 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.