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Old June 18 2013, 12:05 AM   #76
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Re: Does Data have a soul?

In some ways you can say that only Data has a soul. I can't transmit my mind/essence/personality/sapience out of this meat bucket.

And Cavil from NuBSG thought he had it bad.
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Old June 18 2013, 12:35 AM   #77
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I just got done rewatching "Return of the Archons" in the original series and I got to the end when Captain Kirk was talking about how the computer was not Landru because even though it had the knowledge that he had, it did not have the wisdom and compassion and it had no soul.

Now it's kind of obvious that the Landru computer had no soul. I mean it was leading a whole civilization that had almost no emotions. (No offense Vulcans. You're different.) But then I got to thinking. Why does Data seem to have a soul? He seems to have that spark of life just like any human. But he can't have a soul can he? I thought he was a machine and by Kirk's logic machines don't and can't have souls. Yet Data makes friends and even has a few romantic relationships. And we refer to him as "he" instead of "it." (Perhaps thats mostly because he's an android so he looks human and our brains are hot wired to recognize human faces and match them to names. Maybe we would call anything "him" or "her" if we painted a face on it.) Even though he's incapable of emotions, he understands that humans need creativity and feelings to be humans unlike the Landru computer which was only concerned with peace and order.

So my question is does Data have a soul or is he just another lifeless computer?

(Sorry if I sound like I hate Data. On the contrary, he's one of my favorites.)
since they are all atheist in the star trek universe (humans are anyway) I would have to say no he does not have a soul.
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Old June 18 2013, 12:38 AM   #78
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I say if the Iron Giant has a soul then Data has one too.
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Old June 18 2013, 02:02 AM   #79
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Re: Does Data have a soul?

Does a dog have a soul? How about a cockroach?
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Old June 18 2013, 02:03 AM   #80
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Does a dog have a soul? How about a cockroach?
I believe that dogs have souls. Cockroaches never die, so the question isn't relevant to them.

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Old June 18 2013, 01:40 PM   #81
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People don't have "souls".

Problem solved. You are welcome.
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Old June 18 2013, 03:06 PM   #82
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Re: Does Data have a soul?

Question is; Does Data have a soul?

If you are a spiritual or religious person and believes in such things, the questions still stands. My answer to that is yes, I believe he does.

If you are not spiritual or religious person or do not believe in souls or such things; please do not be a troll. (Also remember, even if you don't believe in Hell, you're still flammable)
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Old June 18 2013, 04:41 PM   #83
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Re: Does Data have a soul?

The non spiritual folk here are perfectly capable of saying he doesn't have a soul without trolling, thank you.
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Old June 18 2013, 11:30 PM   #84
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Kevman7987 wrote: View Post
Question is; Does Data have a soul?

If you are a spiritual or religious person and believes in such things, the questions still stands. My answer to that is yes, I believe he does.

If you are not spiritual or religious person or do not believe in souls or such things; please do not be a troll. (Also remember, even if you don't believe in Hell, you're still flammable)
Disagreeing with your position does not equate to trolling. Accusing people of trolling because they disagree with you would seem to come closer to the mark.
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Old June 19 2013, 01:26 AM   #85
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Re: Does Data have a soul?

Because everyone seems to have misunderstood my point (my fault), let me rephrase; Please no trolling.

Make your response without being an ass or attacking anyone else's position.

I also take back my threat to immolate people.
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Old June 19 2013, 01:39 AM   #86
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...wait a minute here. This question has already been thoroughly answered by Kryten.

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Old June 19 2013, 01:46 AM   #87
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^Looks like Robocop without his helmet.

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Old June 19 2013, 04:24 AM   #88
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Chemahkuu wrote: View Post
The non spiritual folk here are perfectly capable of saying he doesn't have a soul without trolling, thank you.
And furthermore, I'm a non spiritual person who says he does have a soul... because it's a tv show & that seemed to be their intention. Of course he doesn't really have a soul. He doesn't exist in reality
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Old June 19 2013, 07:55 AM   #89
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On a related note: If Data does have a soul, did Soong make a little birdhouse in it?
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Old June 20 2013, 03:40 AM   #90
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& when he discovered his dream program did he eventually dream of electric sheep?
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