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View Poll Results: Which is bigger?
USS Enterprise-E 10 29.41%
USS Enterprise-D 24 70.59%
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Old June 18 2013, 12:26 AM   #61
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As CE Evans said in another thread, you should make your posts clear. It isn't my responsibility to read your mind.
And it's not my responsibility to make sure every one of my posts meets with your approval before its posted.

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Ok but don't be surprised when they are interpreted the wrong way.
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Old June 18 2013, 12:38 AM   #62
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Ok but don't be surprised when they are interpreted the wrong way.
Well, that seems to be a problem only when you're around.

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Old June 18 2013, 10:46 AM   #63
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^I agree with that. The Borg invasion happened in 2366-67. The Sovereign-class debuted in 2372 if not earlier, as we know the Enterprise-E had been in space for nearly a year by the time FC happened. It's likely the ship's designs were already in progress, though the Borg and Dominion threats may have pushed up the timetable for completing the ships themselves.
Oh, yeah, I can definitely see that.
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Old June 18 2013, 01:29 PM   #64
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And yet it's making money like few Trek movies ever have. If it's an abyss, it's a very profitable one.
Stupid people can spend money just as easily as anyone else.

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Interesting. Do you always think that people who like things you don't like are stupid ? And does this only apply to you ?

I thought you understood that different people like differend things. I guess it's only when you agree with them.
The post was a joke, but how did I know you'd shit your pants over it?

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You're getting very close to trolling here.

Please stay on topic and avoid the personal comments/sweeping generalizations, or you will receive an infraction.

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Old June 18 2013, 02:59 PM   #65
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If the Sovereign class was a reaction to Wolf 359, considering how one sided that battle was - it looks like a half-effort.

One single borg cube can outmatch the best Federation ship by a 100 fold, where as the Sovereign class is an incremental improvement over the Galaxy class ship.
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Old June 18 2013, 03:14 PM   #66
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If the Sovereign class was a reaction to Wolf 359, considering how one sided that battle was - it looks like a half-effort.

One single borg cube can outmatch the best Federation ship by a 100 fold, where as the Sovereign class is an incremental improvement over the Galaxy class ship.
Maybe they should've built a huge black supership instead with an evil sounding name.
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Old June 18 2013, 05:47 PM   #67
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If the Sovereign class was a reaction to Wolf 359, considering how one sided that battle was - it looks like a half-effort.

One single borg cube can outmatch the best Federation ship by a 100 fold, where as the Sovereign class is an incremental improvement over the Galaxy class ship.
Maybe they should've built a huge black supership instead with an evil sounding name.
The difference is said black supership was built to fight Klingons who are in terms of technology and power virtually equal in strength.

To fight the borg, it has to go beyond phasers and torpedos - which is what the ENT-E was all about really.
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Old June 18 2013, 07:17 PM   #68
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To fight the borg, it has to go beyond phasers and torpedos - which is what the ENT-E was all about really.
If that was the purpose behind Ent E, then the ship was a pathetic failure.
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Old June 18 2013, 07:56 PM   #69
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To fight the borg, it has to go beyond phasers and torpedos - which is what the ENT-E was all about really.
I think the only real difference between the Enterprise-E and the Enterprise-D as far as firepower is concerned was that the newer ship had quantum torpedoes. Otherwise, they seemed to be about the same in combat, IMO.
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Old June 19 2013, 04:56 PM   #70
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To fight the borg, it has to go beyond phasers and torpedos - which is what the ENT-E was all about really.
I think the only real difference between the Enterprise-E and the Enterprise-D as far as firepower is concerned was that the newer ship had quantum torpedoes. Otherwise, they seemed to be about the same in combat, IMO.
Yep, the Ent D vs the Borg cube is a plastic knife in a gun fight.

The Ent E is like a slightly larger plastic knife.
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Old June 22 2013, 07:24 PM   #71
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That ship did actually make it into Trek - it showed up as a big shape looming the background when the Enterprise comes into spacedock (and sees the Excelsior) in STIII. One ofthe other PoTT study models is in the Qualor II junkyard in "Unification"
Yes! It's visible as the Enterprise comes to stop inside spacedock and the camera gradually pans over to show the Excelsior nearby. The far left of the picture shows a ship moored on the other side of the dock.

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I think that study model might have influenced Vonda's concept about the TMP era Magellanic cloud class USS Galaxy.

In ST III it looks smaller than Excelsior. We saw the other thinner study model in TNG.

But Ken Adam's drawings were something else again. McQuarries were smoother and more organic. Drax's spacestation and Proberts station in TMP have some of the same looks.
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