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Old May 20 2013, 01:08 PM   #1
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Star Trek 4x Game

Should be 4X game blast my dyslexia!

I really would love a new game like BOTF were I could take control of one of the major powers from the beginning and play them up to the voyager era.

See as most game publishers dont seem to know what they are doing with startrek games im tempted to make my own game!

I have done some small scale modding I am looking around for a good game engine I could make a total conversion on......

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Old May 30 2013, 02:34 AM   #2
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There's already a Star Trek mod for Galactic Civilizations, from memory. That might be a good starting point.
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Old June 10 2013, 07:35 PM   #3
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Its such a shame they dont make a BOTF2 game which goes from ENT right through to STO era.

It seem like they enjoy makeing sub standard games these days.....
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Old June 11 2013, 07:13 PM   #4
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Should be 4X game blast my dyslexia!
I edited the title for you. No idea what a 4x game is either!!

I loved BOTF - would be great to play another one like it.
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Old June 11 2013, 08:14 PM   #5
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Should be 4X game blast my dyslexia!
I edited the title for you. No idea what a 4x game is either!!

I loved BOTF - would be great to play another one like it.
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4X is the name for games like BOTF. It sort of a sub genre within stratergy games. It stands for explore, expand, exploit, and exterminate.

There are a number of good games like that out there by indi game makers, My fav are sins of a solar of a empire, Distant worlds, Stardrive (really good new one) and Galatic civ 2 and there are some really good startrek mods out there for some of these games. Unforunatly because of game engine constraints there does not seem to be a perfect Ent->Voyger mod that includes all cannon ships and some from the other games where there is gaps.

BUT stardrive looks promiseing and seems to have the potential to make a really good startrek mod. But the team lacking 3d moddling experts.
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Old June 14 2013, 06:51 AM   #6
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There's a very good mod for Space Empires 4 using Star Trek. I made some modifications to it for my own use and from time to time, I have some blast playing as the Terran Empire.
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Old June 14 2013, 11:18 PM   #7
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The All the Ages Mod for BOTF does this pretty nicely. It starts off with the NX-class and you can go all the way to the Sovereign, Intrepid and what not.
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Old June 17 2013, 07:02 AM   #8
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The All the Ages Mod for BOTF does this pretty nicely. It starts off with the NX-class and you can go all the way to the Sovereign, Intrepid and what not.
Unfortunately, that mod suffers from a fundamental BotF flaw. The research is too slow and the galaxy map too small. It's almost impossible to reach Sovereign class, because by that time game will won already. I usually won the game with UFP by the time I had Excelsior class and maybe Ambassador.
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Old June 17 2013, 03:37 PM   #9
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I have no idea why who ever holds the lience to startrek games does not hire a indie company to make one.
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Old June 17 2013, 03:43 PM   #10
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Plenty of Star Trek games were made in the past. They all kind of failed.
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Old June 20 2013, 05:43 PM   #11
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Plenty of Star Trek games were made in the past. They all kind of failed.
Because the game developers screwed then up.


But there have been successfull ones like startrek Armada ect
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Old June 21 2013, 08:30 AM   #12
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But there have been successfull ones like startrek Armada ect
That is true, but even that game failed in some respects, especially when it comes to balance, multiplayer and some of the features (ships or races that showed up in game but not buildable by player, like Galaxy class).
The best Star Trek games were the ones that basically came as fan modifications, mods for BotF and SE4.
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Old June 21 2013, 11:13 PM   #13
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But there have been successfull ones like startrek Armada ect
That is true, but even that game failed in some respects, especially when it comes to balance, multiplayer and some of the features (ships or races that showed up in game but not buildable by player, like Galaxy class).
The best Star Trek games were the ones that basically came as fan modifications, mods for BotF and SE4.
I quite agree!

Thats why if a good indi devloper got the startrek lience and publishing support they could no wonders.


Look at games like X3 terrain conflict, stardrive, galatc civ2. They have done amazing things with little to no money or support!
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Old June 22 2013, 09:26 AM   #14
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Well, that's pretty much what people making mods did. Plenty of mods for BotF, even though that game suffers from bad design.
Space Empires 4 has a mod which is very close to true trek experience. I personally made modifications to it, including a more accurate galaxy map, more trek races (like Xindi or Terran Empire), but that game too has problems, especially because there's no true warp travel, moving is done by going through wormholes from one system to another and development is very, very slow. Otoh, one could design ships from scrap and equip them with any equipments he/she wants and name it too.

If only there was a way to merge the 2 games, the result would spectacular.

I still have some old screenshots of that game:
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...006_time_2.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/Redrake/se42.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/Redrake/se43.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/Redrake/se45.jpg
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Old June 22 2013, 05:43 PM   #15
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Well, that's pretty much what people making mods did. Plenty of mods for BotF, even though that game suffers from bad design.
Space Empires 4 has a mod which is very close to true trek experience. I personally made modifications to it, including a more accurate galaxy map, more trek races (like Xindi or Terran Empire), but that game too has problems, especially because there's no true warp travel, moving is done by going through wormholes from one system to another and development is very, very slow. Otoh, one could design ships from scrap and equip them with any equipments he/she wants and name it too.

If only there was a way to merge the 2 games, the result would spectacular.

I still have some old screenshots of that game:
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...006_time_2.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/Redrake/se42.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/Redrake/se43.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/Redrake/se45.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/Redrake/se46.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/Redrake/se49.jpg
I will have to give the mod a try.

The problem with mods though as you said they are contrained by the orginal programing. Some unquie features of startrek like warp and Cloak just cant be modded in.


That why a Game should be devleoped thats is specificaly for startrek and merges the best features.

Its not hard the tecnology is out there and is being used to create 4X games on a shoe string budget.
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