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Old June 16 2013, 02:11 PM   #46
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Don't get me wrong - it's good for you guys and good on ya for taking advantage of a cinema short-changing itself, but I just don't get it.

It's the same film.

So in a way, this "different prices for different films" already happens in the US - it's just a "different price for different times" thing.

Weird to me.
Some of us don't like going out at night, this, coupled with the cheaper admission fee, makes the matinee a better experience all around.

Simple, and not weird at all.
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Old June 16 2013, 03:02 PM   #47
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I think far more likely, though, will be the emergence of boutique theaters. People will pay more to sit in a nice theater with leather seats, dinner, drinks, etc... A place where "no cell phones" is actually enforced, and where you can get an experience unparalleled from home. I have a 124" projector screen in my living room, so I only go to the theater to see films that are truly worth the theatrical experience these days. Everything else can wait for BD, where I can pause my movie to go refill my wine/beer or flip over my steak on the grill.
I don't know how common they were elsewhere, or if any are still around, but 20-30 years ago, a town I lived in had a couple of "cinema and brew"-type theaters, where the seating was more like a bar and you could order short order food (like chicken strips and french fries) and drinks (including alcoholic ones) from your table. I liked it.

It didn't necessarily come with improved patron behavior, though. I distinctly remember an occasion when I saw STVI in one of these establishments....During the mind-meld interrogation of Valeris, a customer shouted out, "F**K HER, SPOCK!"
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Old June 16 2013, 03:17 PM   #48
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So the film has bits cut out?

They show a longer film at night?

Cannot understand why it's cheaper in the day time. Strange that the land of capitalism and money gauge would short change itself!
I don't understand why you don't understand different prices for different times.

The cinemas around here has $6 all day Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Why? Because no one goes and watches then. It's supply and demand. Less demand during the day, cheaper prices. It's basic economics.
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Old June 16 2013, 03:44 PM   #49
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I already can't afford to take my kids to the movies. Admission and snacks for 4 of us already runs $100. We go to maybe 2 a year. A summer blockbuster and a christmas one. I think the way to get more money into the theatres is to drop the price and not raise it.

making actual good movies might work too.
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Old June 16 2013, 04:52 PM   #50
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Cannot understand why it's cheaper in the day time. Strange that the land of capitalism and money gauge would short change itself!
Au contraire, the cheaper prices for films during the daytime IS capitalism in action. During the day, less people go to the cinema than during the primetime evening hours of Friday night and Saturday night, therefore the lower price is an incentive to fill the empty seats. Some of the movie theaters around here advertise a "tight-wad Tuesday" incentive, where the films are $5 all day, or the dollar theater will sell tickets to second run films for 50 cents instead of a dollar on Tuesdays. (Tuesdays are typically the slowest day of the week for the theater).

Pretty standard concept.

DID YOU KNOW?

Amusement parks typically charge less for admittance late in the evening than if you showed up at 10am when the park opens?

And that some bars with live bands typically stop charging cover towards the end of the night (I've been to a few that don't, and that's bullshit! I didn't get to hear any of the live band play)! Some bars will even let you in early to eat dinner, and NOT charge you cover to hear the live band?

Grocery stores will discount food items with expiration dates of today or tomorrow? Bakeries will sell day-old bread at reduced rates?
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Old June 16 2013, 04:53 PM   #51
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Don't get me wrong - it's good for you guys and good on ya for taking advantage of a cinema short-changing itself, but I just don't get it.

It's the same film.

So in a way, this "different prices for different films" already happens in the US - it's just a "different price for different times" thing.

Weird to me.
It costs the same to run a movie no matter how many people watch it. At a time when few people come to begin with, lowering the price makes it more likely for more to come. The prices of concessions aren't lowered during matinées. If people save money on the admission, they are more likely to spring for concessions.
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Old June 16 2013, 05:34 PM   #52
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I agree with what's been said above. During normal working hours, most people are at work. So that's why cinema ticket prives are cheaper supply exceed demand. I'd much rather goto a daytime screening, when the cinema is quiet(er) and I can enjoy my film in relative peace.
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Old June 16 2013, 06:46 PM   #53
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So the film has bits cut out?

They show a longer film at night?
Why are you being so pedantic?


Cannot understand why it's cheaper in the day time. Strange that the land of capitalism and money gauge would short change itself!
It's cheaper so to encourage people to come, you know, on a Wednesday afternoon. You know, to make it more attractive.

It seems to work, I know one of the reasons I choose a matinee is because it's cheaper.

I don't know this is so hard to understand. Just because it's different?
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Old June 16 2013, 07:04 PM   #54
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Why are you being so pedantic?
^ What he said.
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Old June 16 2013, 09:16 PM   #55
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I'd imagine there is a great market for theatres showing Oscar-bait movies with slightly expensive a la carte dinner, for posh ignorant people. Of course the space would have to be designed very well for it to work.

On the other hand, pre-release screenings for any movie with an established cult following, including blockbusters, could sell for pretty high prices too, as long as they give exclusive merchandise (must!). I don't know what I could be capable of paying, for the next Lars von Trier, David Lynch or Nicholas Winding Refn movie.

The anime industry is an extreme example of a very small number of insane people paying 60$ for every 2-episode volume on Blu-Ray, that they already saw on tv for free, and then buying as much merchandise as they can afford. I don't know what kind of movies could work on a similar principle though. It'd have to be people who live and breathe the genre. Some goth thing maybe?
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Old June 16 2013, 09:25 PM   #56
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I'd imagine there is a great market for theatres showing Oscar-bait movies with slightly expensive a la carte dinner, for posh ignorant people. Of course the space would have to be designed very well for it to work.


Because only "posh ignorant people" might like other kinds of movies besides Wizards, Superheroes and car crashes?
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Old June 16 2013, 09:31 PM   #57
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^The term "Oscar-bait" should explain my point perfectly well.

I'm looking forward to that poignant movie about car crashes in America by Lars von Trier now.
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Old June 16 2013, 09:46 PM   #58
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^The term "Oscar-bait" should explain my point perfectly well.
No. It really doesn't. What do you mean by "Oscar-bait?" Because great movies like The King's Speech wouldn't appeal to teenagers, great movie for a dinner and a movie theater, might be considered "Oscar Bait" by people who only want kewl explosions in their movies.

Now, I agree there are movies that are made to get a star an Oscar... But not all movies for adults are "Oscar bait."

Just trying to get a hold of what you mean by "posh ignorant people"
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Old June 16 2013, 10:05 PM   #59
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Let's not forget that in the past there were premium "roadshow" film presentations and then standard moviehouse shows, so two-tiered pricing goes back to the 50s at least.

If theaters could charge less per ticket for less popular films they might well put more butts in seats, sell more concessions, and actually make more money, but the way the distribution deals are done this isn't typically possible.
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Old June 16 2013, 10:07 PM   #60
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^^I made a dig at people who would mainly watch that kind of movies because of perceived 'fine'-ness. In reality, most customers would probably be perfectly aware the movie isn't as good as it could be, as the explosion fans are, as long as the movie's portion of the price isn't high. I'm alarmed by the thought of someone actually paying 25$ for a random movie, dinner paid seperately
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