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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 139 19.36%
A 157 21.87%
A- 98 13.65%
B+ 78 10.86%
B 58 8.08%
B- 27 3.76%
C+ 38 5.29%
C 37 5.15%
C- 23 3.20%
D+ 11 1.53%
D 13 1.81%
D- 6 0.84%
F 33 4.60%
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Old June 14 2013, 08:15 PM   #4231
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50 years of implausible science, The Enterprise falls to earth, and THAT'S where you're drawing your 'Physics Line in the Sand'?
What, at the rules of gravity? Sure, why not.
Those went out of the window with that scene: http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...ntraphd004.jpg
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Old June 14 2013, 08:18 PM   #4232
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The ship crashing into one of the cities on the moon would have been a cool sequence as well.
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Old June 14 2013, 09:08 PM   #4233
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What, at the rules of gravity? Sure, why not.
Well, movies in general seem to ignore gravity whenever it suits them, so I guess that's a possible reason why not.
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Old June 14 2013, 09:13 PM   #4234
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The ship crashing into one of the cities on the moon would have been a cool sequence as well.
Absolutely. I certainly would like the movies to move away from Earth a bit.
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Old June 14 2013, 11:18 PM   #4235
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50 years of implausible science, The Enterprise falls to earth, and THAT'S where you're drawing your 'Physics Line in the Sand'?
What, at the rules of gravity? Sure, why not.
You might as well be angry that TOS has something called Artificial Gravity and Inertial Dampers. One keeps the crew from floating 'round, the other keeps them from turning into chunky salsa when the ship accelerates. Both break your Gravity Rules.
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Old June 14 2013, 11:22 PM   #4236
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Both break your Gravity Rules.
They're not mine : /
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Old June 14 2013, 11:28 PM   #4237
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For me, Spock yelling "Khaaan!!!!" or running down the street like a dork
Of course Spock runs like a dork.

Because he is a dork.

It's just that in Star Trek being a dork is AWESOME.
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Old June 14 2013, 11:50 PM   #4238
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Both break your Gravity Rules.
They're not mine : /
Sooooo... fine with those two aspects of far-out gravity fantasy, but totally pissed about the Big E falling to earth in the latest movie.

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Old June 14 2013, 11:55 PM   #4239
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Both break your Gravity Rules.
They're not mine : /
Sooooo... fine with those two aspects of far-out gravity fantasy, but totally pissed about the Big E falling to earth in the latest movie.
I'm complex!
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Old June 15 2013, 12:34 AM   #4240
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Star Trek has never obeyed the rules of gravity, since the ridiculously rapidly decaying orbits of TOS. Your insistence that it start obeying real orbital mechanics now, something it never, ever did before, is completely arbitrary.
As a Doctor Who fan I take psuedo-science in my stride. I linked to an article exposing the [lack of] science in Star Trek.

I actually think it would have provided a cooler visual if the laws of gravity had been even slightly adhered to, with the Enterprise streaking across the sky in a decaying orbit as opposed to tumbling like a big sack of spuds.
Really you're a Doctor Who fan and you dare question the science of Star Trek
I give Dr Who big big leeway in science but please explain (scientifically) the seven planets episode where someone/something pulled seven planets out of their orbits took them somewhere away from their suns and nobody died.
That's were I drew my line in the sand with Dr Who
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Old June 15 2013, 12:50 AM   #4241
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Star Trek has never obeyed the rules of gravity, since the ridiculously rapidly decaying orbits of TOS. Your insistence that it start obeying real orbital mechanics now, something it never, ever did before, is completely arbitrary.
As a Doctor Who fan I take psuedo-science in my stride. I linked to an article exposing the [lack of] science in Star Trek.

I actually think it would have provided a cooler visual if the laws of gravity had been even slightly adhered to, with the Enterprise streaking across the sky in a decaying orbit as opposed to tumbling like a big sack of spuds.
Really you're a Doctor Who fan and you dare question the science of Star Trek
I give Dr Who big big leeway in science but please explain (scientifically) the seven planets episode where someone/something pulled seven planets out of their orbits took them somewhere away from their suns and nobody died.
That's were I drew my line in the sand with Dr Who


It's twenty-seven planets.

Never, ever use "Dr" when talking about Doctor Who
But, yeah, the "science" in Doctor Who conforms to the stories, just like it does in Star Trek.
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Old June 15 2013, 12:54 AM   #4242
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Dr Who has more in common with fantasy than fiction.
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Old June 15 2013, 12:57 AM   #4243
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Dr Who has more in common with fantasy than fiction.
I don't see the difference.
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Old June 15 2013, 02:11 AM   #4244
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Star Trek has never been consistent with its technology nor how the crew used that technology. In an episode of TNG, the audience learns that the windows were made of transparent aluminum. Yet, when the primary hull of the Enterprise crashed into planetary surface, the windows shattered like they were made of glass. In that same movie, the crew, once they knew their shields had been compromised, didn't change the shield frequency rotation, like Tuvok did in one episode of Voyager.
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Old June 15 2013, 02:23 PM   #4245
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Star Trek has never been consistent with its technology nor how the crew used that technology. In an episode of TNG, the audience learns that the windows were made of transparent aluminum. Yet, when the primary hull of the Enterprise crashed into planetary surface, the windows shattered like they were made of glass. In that same movie, the crew, once they knew their shields had been compromised, didn't change the shield frequency rotation, like Tuvok did in one episode of Voyager.
How about the consistency of transporting through shields? Basically whenever the plot called for it they could do it. When ever it called for not transporting through shields they couldn't do it.
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