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View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 28 11.16%
A 53 21.12%
A- 46 18.33%
B+ 25 9.96%
B 27 10.76%
B- 11 4.38%
C+ 13 5.18%
C 12 4.78%
C- 9 3.59%
D+ 8 3.19%
D 10 3.98%
D- 5 1.99%
F 4 1.59%
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Old June 13 2013, 09:18 PM   #46
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I suspect when most reviews are published tonight/tomorrow the number will dramatically change. (Good or bad, is hard to say.)

And, well, we also all know how little reviews matter in the grand scheme of things, I'm sure the movie will still perform well. It's a good movie worth seeing, screw the critics.
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Old June 13 2013, 09:22 PM   #47
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Yeah people probably put way too much stock in the RT rating.... but at the same time I generally find myself agreeing with the consensus on most movies, so I think there must be something to their system.

Although I do find it a bit less reliable when it comes to superhero movies and summer blockbusters (GL may have had it's issues, but it was certainly better than 26%, I think).
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Old June 13 2013, 09:43 PM   #48
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davejames wrote: View Post
Yeah people probably put way too much stock in the RT rating.... but at the same time I generally find myself agreeing with the consensus on most movies, so I think there must be something to their system.

Although I do find it a bit less reliable when it comes to superhero movies and summer blockbusters (GL may have had it's issues, but it was certainly better than 26%, I think).
I may be over generalizing but critics are not always fan-boys and tend to not care for superhero movies too much.
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Old June 13 2013, 09:58 PM   #49
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Trekker4747 wrote: View Post
No stinger after the credits (at least not in the preview I saw) nor is there a scene after title cards before the scrolling credits. Which, really? How is there NOT one in this day and age?
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- And finally, is there a post-credit sequence?
I wonder, what is so exciting about post credit scenes?
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Old June 13 2013, 10:07 PM   #50
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Nothing, but sometimes, in movies like this, they can have some service to them to the building of the universe or to a sequel. I mean, heck, a scene with a bald head in a dark room looking at room full of monitors showing Superman saving the world with an ominous voice going, "So... he thinks can save the world, huh? We'll see about that." would've been awesome. It's just almost expected after the Marvel movies, I guess.
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Old June 13 2013, 11:08 PM   #51
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I saw it this mornin' - there is not a postcredits sequence.
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Old June 13 2013, 11:08 PM   #52
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Old June 13 2013, 11:15 PM   #53
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Right now it is at 58% on RT.
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Old June 13 2013, 11:15 PM   #54
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Heck, Die Hard 3 has 52%. If Man of Steel is better than Die Hard 3, bring it.
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Old June 13 2013, 11:20 PM   #55
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None of the Nolan Batman films had post credit scenes. That's more of a Marvel thing.
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Old June 13 2013, 11:23 PM   #56
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None of the Nolan Batman films had post credit scenes. That's more of a Marvel thing.
Post credit scenes are pointless anyways. I never saw a reason why they are not included in the main body of the film.

In a Marvel Batman Begins, they would have probably put that Joker card scene after the credits. What would I have gotten out of this?
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Old June 14 2013, 12:24 AM   #57
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None of the Nolan Batman films had post credit scenes. That's more of a Marvel thing.
Not exclusively by any means. Here's an extensive list of the trope's many uses, going back decades. And it has been a "DC thing" at least once, in the Green Lantern movie.
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Old June 14 2013, 01:57 AM   #58
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^If it's sunk that much in just a day, then it could rise just as much by tomorrow. It takes time for a consensus to emerge.

Note also that the 58% rating for "all critics" is given a "rotten" symbol while the 60% rating for "top critics" -- which is statistically indistinguishable from the former -- gets a "fresh" symbol. Clearly the dividing line between what they label good and bad is rather arbitrary, and the icons are a gross oversimplification. (I read at least one "rotten"-labeled review that was actually largely positive. A binary system like RT's is not good at dealing with nuance and ambivalence.)
That's why I prefer Metacritic. It gives a more equal average (although it does give "top critics" more weight), and it has three colors, which correspond more or less to good, average, poor. It's also set with 80-100 green, 40-60 yellow, and 0-39 red.
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Old June 14 2013, 02:04 AM   #59
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The fate of DC movies rests on this movie.

-A Justice League movie

-Opening up the potential for more DC hero movies

-Superman's movie future

If this fails then expect a Batman reboot to be quickly greenlit to rebound from "Man of Steel's low performance.
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Old June 14 2013, 02:34 AM   #60
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This movie is not going to fail, so the point is moot.
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