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Old June 11 2013, 06:15 AM   #6811
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Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

New 52 Lex is a little underdeveloped. Morrison I think had him addressed as "Dr. Luthor" his "Action Comics" run but either that was ruse on Lex's part or some kind of ego thing, or it's been dropped or ignored by Lobdell, Daniel. etc. Still is pretty interesting though. I was surprise to see him apparently escaping from prison because he seemed to be precisely where he wanted to be.
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Old June 11 2013, 07:02 AM   #6812
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The Mad Thinker over at Marvel spent years in Prison using the same ruse.
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Old June 11 2013, 11:57 PM   #6813
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What did you think of New Years Evil oh so long ago?
Prometheus was good and a good set-up for an interesting character (that was ultimately wasted, but not until later on).

Gog was interesting, but pure set-up for The Kingdom, which ruined Kingdom Come.

Those were the only ones I read.
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Old June 12 2013, 12:30 AM   #6814
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And they were probably the only ones worth reading, but that Mxyzptlk cover is worth a snigger.

Focussing on a villain (Deadpool and the Punisher qualify.) fouls up whatever moral compass you're you're supposed to be working with (Howard the Duck in a pinch) and should deliver unpredictable story telling.

Making the Trickster the STAR of Underworld Unleashed was genius.

Then of course Amazing Spider-Man right now is all about a villain being in driving seat, and he's really become caught up in the hero game... Although, if he was truly evil, Otto should have put a ring on Mary-Jane's finger.
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Old June 12 2013, 12:33 AM   #6815
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That's what this kind of reminds me of. I wonder if "Forever Evil" is meant to be a kind of updated "Underwolrd Unleashed"?
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Old June 12 2013, 01:48 AM   #6816
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And they were probably the only ones worth reading, but that Mxyzptlk cover is worth a snigger.

Focussing on a villain (Deadpool and the Punisher qualify.) fouls up whatever moral compass you're you're supposed to be working with (Howard the Duck in a pinch) and should deliver unpredictable story telling.
Which is what made Villains United and Secret Six so great. The best stories from those were when they were fighting against other villains. Though the "Batman Reborn" story was great also, each honoring Batman in their own way.

Making the Trickster the STAR of Underworld Unleashed was genius.
If you're telling a story about villains getting new powers and focus on the heroes, it's bland. If you tell the story of the greatest trick the Trickster ever played, it gets interesting.
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Old June 13 2013, 02:53 AM   #6817
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Finally Soranik Natu gets something to do in the New 52. She's long been a favorite character of mine, and gets a scene with Salaak, another favorite. It would have been a tragedy had they not addressed how she's dealing with the destruction of Korugar.
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Old June 13 2013, 03:55 AM   #6818
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I liked Superman Unchained #1. It had an intriguing teaser and I liked the way Snyder wrote it (and Jim Lee drew it, of course!).
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Old June 14 2013, 05:30 AM   #6819
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I agree about "Superman: Unchained #1". It didn't disappoint, typical Jim Lee artwork, and Snyder surpassed my expectations and any doubts that he could handle writing Clark. He does so fantastically. Same with the supporting cast.
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Finally Soranik Natu gets something to do in the New 52. She's long been a favorite character of mine, and gets a scene with Salaak, another favorite. It would have been a tragedy had they not addressed how she's dealing with the destruction of Korugar.
So I'm finally thinking of taking a hiatus from GL trades after the Wrath arc ends, and now they're bringing her back?
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Old June 15 2013, 01:46 AM   #6821
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Anyone who has a pull at their comic shop should talk to the clerk there and find out how they're dealing with villains month to make sure you get the issues you want and the shop isn't stuck with hundreds of issues they can't get rid of. DC really is not thinking about the retailers when they created this ridiculous event. The Diamond order forms are already unable to properly deal with the Marvel .1s, so I don't know how this is going to work.
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Old June 15 2013, 02:36 AM   #6822
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I couldn't concentrate on Superman unchained.

I don't Jim's heart is in it any more.
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Old June 15 2013, 05:24 AM   #6823
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^ I've felt that way about Lee for a while now. I think he's more interested in plotting than he is drawing these days. There wasn't anything that jumped out about Superman: Unchained art wise..it was no different than any of his current New 52 work. What impressed me though was the writing. Snyder is on the ball again, and it seems like, so far Lee isn't co-plotting and is just drawing. So that is good enough for me.
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Old June 15 2013, 01:00 PM   #6824
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I particularly liked the monologue about how it feels to fly back into the atmosphere. It really brought him what it's like to be Superman.
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Old June 15 2013, 09:08 PM   #6825
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I just stared reading the first JLD collected edition on my Nook a little while ago. I'm only a few pages into it, but I'm already intrigued.
EDIT: I just looked up Shade, a character I know nothing about, and now I was wondering which version is in this series, the poet or the spy?
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