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Old June 12 2013, 12:44 PM   #31
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Re: Where's the Main Computer in STID?

^ It's really impressive how GQ just nailed it, repeatedly. In many ways, it's a better Star Trek than Star Trek ever was.



OK, okay, I meant some ways, in some ways....
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Old June 12 2013, 01:20 PM   #32
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^ It's really impressive how GQ just nailed it, repeatedly. In many ways, it's a better Star Trek than Star Trek ever was.



OK, okay, I meant some ways, in some ways....
I wonder if Quinto ever played Richard III?
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Old June 12 2013, 01:24 PM   #33
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Shatner played Henry V and got good reviews. Does that count?
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Old June 12 2013, 10:53 PM   #34
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Khan announces himself as a 300 year old war criminal and no one (not even Spock!) ever asks the computer what war, what crimes, what genetic engineering, who this Khan was 300 years before.

It's a tad odd. It would have been odd in TOS (after all, in Space Seed, as soon as they have Khan's name they call up the history on the main computer), but it really stands out as weird in the age of Google.
And they would have had an opportunity to do this... when?

Honestly. The ship is getting shot to pieces by a deranged Starfleet admiral with the biggest scariest starship you've ever seen, and your first instinct is to jump on a computer and google the first name of that guy you've got locked up in the brig downstairs.

Try running a google search for the word "Khan" and ignore all the Star Trek references. Now try doing that while in the middle of a gun fight with your ship falling apart around you.
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Old June 12 2013, 11:02 PM   #35
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I am forgetting the movie already, so before I answered to the question, when would it be a good time to do a search, I have a question - when did Khan reveal his name?
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Old June 12 2013, 11:13 PM   #36
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I am forgetting the movie already, so before I answered to the question, when would it be a good time to do a search, I have a question - when did Khan reveal his name?
About 45 seconds before Sulu picked up USS Vengeance warping towards them on their sensors. By which time, Kirk is a lot less interested in who Khan is than he is in what the hell is going on between Khan and Marcus.

Actually, even without looking up Khan's background, both Kirk and Spock come to relatively clear conclusions about who he really is. During the gun battle to take the Vengeance, for example, Kirk orders Scotty to "drop him" as soon as they take the bridge. Scotty says "I thought he was helping us?" to which Kirk replies "No, Scotty, I'm pretty sure we're helping him."

Oldspock didn't tell NuSpock anything he didn't already know, except that Khan's singular weakness is his single-mindedness: once he's dedicated himself to a particular objective, he'll usually follow it even if that objective rolls off a cliff.
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Old June 12 2013, 11:19 PM   #37
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Which response should I give?

1. We should have seen Spock doing 2 hours of research. Then Spock should have asked the Computer! One hour of the Computer talking! "

or

2. We didn't see Spock do research or talk to the Computer! Plot Hole!"

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3.
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Old June 12 2013, 11:33 PM   #38
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Spock does the research off-screen. He reports to Kirk the results of this research. The general audience member will go, "Oh, that is who Khan is. Okay, now I get why he is such a big threat."
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Old June 12 2013, 11:38 PM   #39
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Spock does the research off-screen. He reports to Kirk the results of this research. The general audience member will go, "Oh, that is who Khan is. Okay, now I get why he is such a big threat."
Because Khan pulling a John Rambo on Starfleet headquarters and a platoon of heavily armed Klingon troopers wasn't good enough.

Anyone who wants to know who Khan ACTUALLY is can do what my sister/friends/wife/cousins/boss/daughter did and watch Space Seed on Netflix. Anyone who wants to know how the Enterprise ACTUALLY beat Khan last time around can watch Wrath of Khan. Anyone who wants to know why they need to be worried about Khan simply needs to not miss the first half of the movie.
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Old June 12 2013, 11:58 PM   #40
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Edited out. Comment didn't add to discussion.

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Old June 13 2013, 04:08 PM   #41
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The backstory is that this guy has a cybernetic implant that allows him to communicate with the ship's computer telepathically. So maybe they can just consult him instead.



In any event, I agree that talking to a computer on screen isn't very interesting. When Iron Man talks to Jeeves it's basically comic relief.
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