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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

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Old June 11 2013, 10:03 PM   #16
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Re: Been thinking its time to try Doctor Who

I missed some too, there's the Doctor the Widow and the Wardrobe (or whatever it's title was!) as well
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Old June 11 2013, 11:50 PM   #17
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If you like history, and have no problems with black and white productions, just try The season one story The Aztecs. Low-key, but some great SF debate on how inevitable the course of history actually is. Then you can watch all the alien invasions that come later....
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Old June 12 2013, 01:31 AM   #18
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I missed some too, there's the Doctor the Widow and the Wardrobe (or whatever it's title was!) as well
Don't worry that's a pretty forgettable episode anyway.

Yeah, it would be a refreshing change to have a story set in the past (or even future) with no alien/robot involvement.
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Old June 12 2013, 10:09 PM   #19
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Start with Rose. If you want to get 'into' it, a contemporary starting point is the best one - then go back through the earlier eras.
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Old June 12 2013, 10:12 PM   #20
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I'd suggest starting with The Eleventh Hour if somebody had to start with New Who. If not, do it right and start with An Unearthly Child .
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Old June 12 2013, 10:14 PM   #21
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^Disagree, it's best to go with "Rose" and watch from there as it slowly re-introduces the elements of DW.
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Old June 12 2013, 10:15 PM   #22
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I missed some too, there's the Doctor the Widow and the Wardrobe (or whatever it's title was!) as well
Well it was only nominally set in the past, Britain WWII. It took place more on another planet.
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Old June 12 2013, 10:20 PM   #23
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^Disagree, it's best to go with "Rose" and watch from there as it slowly re-introduces the elements of DW.
I start casuals with The Eleventh Hour as Rose seems too childish and amateurish to a lot of my friends.
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Old June 12 2013, 10:22 PM   #24
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I'd suggest starting with The Eleventh Hour if somebody had to start with New Who. If not, do it right and start with An Unearthly Child .
I agree, Rose is a poor episode and The Eleventh Hour does at least have time travel in it.
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Old June 12 2013, 10:45 PM   #25
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^Perhaps. But "Rose" was written to re-indroduce the show. "The Eleventh Hour" Not so much.


Besides if you want a strongish episode to start with why not go for "Dalek" or "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances"?

And truthfully as "Rose" acts like a pilot how many pilot episodes represent the best episode that a particualr show has to offer.
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Old June 12 2013, 11:32 PM   #26
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Rose was one of the best episodes of Series 1 when I was a kid. Spooky mystery with the promise of adventure and creative villains. Didn't get the emotion porn of the next two episodes at all back then, and the following two-parter is dull. It doesn't have the tragedy nor the complexity a lot of the show has but it's a great episode.
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Old June 13 2013, 05:34 PM   #27
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And truthfully as "Rose" acts like a pilot how many pilot episodes represent the best episode that a particualr show has to offer.
Uh.... An Unearthly Child would be a good one to look at .
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Old June 13 2013, 05:55 PM   #28
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And truthfully as "Rose" acts like a pilot how many pilot episodes represent the best episode that a particualr show has to offer.
Uh.... An Unearthly Child would be a good one to look at .
Sure...For you and me, but, there's a lot of young people today who can't get into Black and White or the pace of the older serials. Heck, look at Kirk55555's reaction to the Silent Movie that won an award, for many of today's youth, black and white and the slower pace of the serials of that era are no easier to get beyond then. Although I have no problem with Black and White or the pacing, I too have an aversion to Silent Movies and Subtitled movies (mostly because I don't typically just sit in front of the TV, I am generally doing other things while watching, which isn't really possible if you need to watch the screen every second to read dialogue)
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Old June 14 2013, 09:15 AM   #29
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Of all the 'introductory episodes' Rose, Smith and Jones, and The Eleventh Hour, Rose is the weakest by far, however it is clearly the best one to use to introduce someone to the concept of the show.

Say what you like about RTD (and anyone whose been on this forum a long time knows I wasn't always his biggest fan and is, at heart, more of a Team Moffat kind of guy) but the way he brought the show back is a masterclass in how to bring a huge franchise with a ton of history back without completely rebooting it. He stripped Doctor Who back to its bare essentials (alien in a time travelling box that's bigger on the inside), hooked a whole generation of kids (and probably a lot of their parents who may not have seen the original show) and then slowly drip fed the wider history/mythos of the show as the years progressed.

Star with Rose, just make it clear the show gets a lot better
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Old June 14 2013, 02:01 PM   #30
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Of all the 'introductory episodes' Rose, Smith and Jones, and The Eleventh Hour, Rose is the weakest by far, however it is clearly the best one to use to introduce someone to the concept of the show.

Say what you like about RTD (and anyone whose been on this forum a long time knows I wasn't always his biggest fan and is, at heart, more of a Team Moffat kind of guy) but the way he brought the show back is a masterclass in how to bring a huge franchise with a ton of history back without completely rebooting it. He stripped Doctor Who back to its bare essentials (alien in a time travelling box that's bigger on the inside), hooked a whole generation of kids (and probably a lot of their parents who may not have seen the original show) and then slowly drip fed the wider history/mythos of the show as the years progressed.

Star with Rose, just make it clear the show gets a lot better
Agreed, but I'd like to know a little about the OP's tastes and sensibilities. My preferred recommendation is always to start with An Unearthly Child; oddly enough, the best "introductory" episode to Doctor Who.
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