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Old June 10 2013, 02:19 PM   #16
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Re: Falling Skies, Revolution, and Defiance

I'm sick and tired of Earth based as sci-fi but understand the economic pressures against space opera. Admittedly I groaned when I saw the trailers for Defiance and Revolution, but against my will I have really come to enjoy Defiance. Revolution continues to be rather less enthralling but I'm still watching.

Of the three the most disappointing is still Falling Skies which is just so predictably unoriginal that I'm likely to not watch the third season when we get it. With the weight its got behind it it should be leading the pack, but its easily the worst of the three...
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Old June 10 2013, 02:36 PM   #17
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Golden Age of SciFi? The 1990s - B5, Farscape, DS9...
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Old June 10 2013, 03:23 PM   #18
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I haven't seen Defiance, but Revolution is so horrible nothing could be a bigger mess than that.
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Old June 10 2013, 03:49 PM   #19
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Golden Age of SciFi? The 1990s - B5, Farscape, DS9...
... and SG-1.
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Old June 10 2013, 04:13 PM   #20
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Golden Age of SciFi? The 1990s - B5, Farscape, DS9...
... and SG-1.
Oh, sure, and Buffy and Angel and XFiles, and Earth Final Conflict first couple seasons, as well as Andromeda (started in 2000) first couple seasons. And TNG ran mostly in the 1990s and Voyager...

The "..." was meant to show it wasn't an all-compassing list and that it represented "and so on"
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Old June 10 2013, 05:53 PM   #21
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Is Defiance still on? My DVR failed to record it 2 or 3 weeks ago and I haven't been bothered to watch it since.
FYI: There was no new episode Memorial Day weekend. Syfy ran movies that Monday, instead of original programming, so maybe you didn't miss anything.
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Old June 10 2013, 06:16 PM   #22
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Golden Age of SciFi? The 1990s - B5, Farscape, DS9...
... and SG-1.
Oh, sure, and Buffy and Angel and XFiles, and Earth Final Conflict first couple seasons, as well as Andromeda (started in 2000) first couple seasons. And TNG ran mostly in the 1990s and Voyager...

The "..." was meant to show it wasn't an all-compassing list and that it represented "and so on"
. . . and Xena.
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Old June 10 2013, 10:37 PM   #23
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Falling Skies is far better than both of those other shows and I watch all three.

Revolution I have been losing interest over time though I have them all recorded. I am about 10 episodes behind.

Defiance messed up and didn't record the last episode so I am now behind by one and I don't even care all that much. It has yet to hook me though I will give it every chance.

Falling Skies is the best Sci Fi on TV right now and its not on for very long each season. When people talk of a golden age of Sci Fi? Well this is surely not it. Sci Fi is almost dead.

These days its all about Fantasy which sometimes has Sci Fi elements. Walking Dead, True Blood and Game of Thrones.
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Old June 10 2013, 11:34 PM   #24
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Falling Skies should be better. But they keep writing scripts that they think are so cool that we won't notice that they're really trying to save some money for the cool special effects in the final battle four episode down the line.

Seriously in season one they had a two parter that was basically Hansel and Gretel.
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Old June 11 2013, 12:42 AM   #25
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... and SG-1.
Oh, sure, and Buffy and Angel and XFiles, and Earth Final Conflict first couple seasons, as well as Andromeda (started in 2000) first couple seasons. And TNG ran mostly in the 1990s and Voyager...

The "..." was meant to show it wasn't an all-compassing list and that it represented "and so on"
. . . and Xena.
Children just don't understand.

The Golden Age of sci-fi was when sci-fi was mainstream entertainment and not just a nerd-niche, which means THE FIFTIES AND THE SIXTIES. That was when sci-fi was everywhere and studios, networks and publishers saw it as a go-to subject for making money and therefore didn't wring their hands as much about producing it.
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Old June 11 2013, 02:29 AM   #26
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Oh, sure, and Buffy and Angel and XFiles, and Earth Final Conflict first couple seasons, as well as Andromeda (started in 2000) first couple seasons. And TNG ran mostly in the 1990s and Voyager...

The "..." was meant to show it wasn't an all-compassing list and that it represented "and so on"
. . . and Xena.
Children just don't understand.

The Golden Age of sci-fi was when sci-fi was mainstream entertainment and not just a nerd-niche, which means THE FIFTIES AND THE SIXTIES. That was when sci-fi was everywhere and studios, networks and publishers saw it as a go-to subject for making money and therefore didn't wring their hands as much about producing it.
Oh, I thought that was the Bronze Age

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Old June 11 2013, 04:37 AM   #27
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my sci-fi tv golden age was the late 90s... B5, DS9, VOY, EFC, Buffy, Herc/Xena (didn't watch em but they were around)...
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Old June 11 2013, 05:26 AM   #28
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my sci-fi tv golden age was the late 90s... B5, DS9, VOY, EFC, Buffy, Herc/Xena (didn't watch em but they were around)...

But is that the Golden age...or the Third Age?
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Old June 11 2013, 07:04 AM   #29
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By Sheridan's account, the third age is when we make our own SCI FI with mobile phone cameras and post it on youtube.

We have the tools.

Now, all we need is the will.
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Old June 11 2013, 07:31 AM   #30
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Oh dear god, please don't let this be the golden age of science fiction.
Well, this is the Golden Age of Television... even if when people list the best series of this era, it takes a long while to get it any sci-fi shows. I guess we'll eventually get a couple that are good - the praise Orphan Black gets suggests it's probably better than all three of these shows combined.

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Children just don't understand.

The Golden Age of sci-fi was when sci-fi was mainstream entertainment and not just a nerd-niche, which means THE FIFTIES AND THE SIXTIES. That was when sci-fi was everywhere and studios, networks and publishers saw it as a go-to subject for making money and therefore didn't wring their hands as much about producing it.
In the fifties, science fiction film was the purview of low budget B-movies, and sci-fi TV was stuff like Captain Video. Works like The Day The Earth Stood Still and Forbidden Planet were unusual, applying a pristine Hollywood style in the former and a glossy, expensive MGM look for the latter in a genre that didn't exactly get money thrown at it.
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