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Old June 9 2013, 03:53 AM   #1
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Starfleet Academy Series

Instead of going back to revamp the franchise, I think they should have done a Starfleet Academy series set after Voyagers return. It would have drawn in the younger sci-fi viewers giving them something to relate to and given the fan base familiar faces and story-arcs. One episode the 'Doctor' stops by to give a speech on Delta Quadrant medication, another you pass by Prof. Miles O'brian's engineering course or Dr. Crusher's medical lab (or give a returning cast member a main character role, why not). One of the main characters could be aiming for the CONN position to throw in space cg effects every now and then, another main charater's a Klingon transitioning to earth's rules. You can even have the occasional Romulan or Borg threat or do class away mission, reaching to further reaches of space using the new transwarp system. Aliens attack and they send out a distress signal and Worf in the defiant drops out of transwarp and kicks butt.
Reposted from Surak-toc's "The abundance of ideas for a new trek show" thread in Misc. Star Trek. It's quite doable, even in senior cast members aged states, older would be better. What familiar face would you like to show up in a series like that?
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Old June 9 2013, 11:15 AM   #2
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William Shatner pitched a Kirk and Spock academy TV series in 2003. The story eventually became the 2007 novel Star Trek Academy: Collision Course. I'd love to see something similar, re-rebooting or filling in Kirk's three years at the academy from XI and reusing costumes and sets from XI and ID. Like a cross between Star Trek and Smallville.
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Old June 9 2013, 12:33 PM   #3
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Re: Starfleet Academy Series

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Instead of going back to revamp the franchise, I think they should have done a Starfleet Academy series set after Voyagers return.
Stop right there (because the rest of that post is nothing more than fanwankery).

Creating a new tv series right after Enterprise got cancelled would have been the worst thing they could have done, no matter what the show was about. People were sick of Trek at that point, and CBS was sick of producing it.

No, the Abrams TOS reboot movies were totally the right way to go to re-energize Trek; not some academy tv show that hardly anyone would have watched.
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Old June 9 2013, 12:50 PM   #4
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Re: Starfleet Academy Series

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the Abrams TOS reboot movies were totally the right way to go to re-energize Trek
Sometimes there's merit in building a franchise that hums along at a lower level, but keeps going, rather than to pander to current fashion trends that are bound to become stale as fashions change and the prime-demographic groups age-out and develop more mature tastes.

JJ Trek will be lucky to get one more film after this, beyond which I think it will have been played-out. JJ will have left the building and it just won't seem fresh and hip anymore.
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Old June 9 2013, 01:16 PM   #5
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Re: Starfleet Academy Series

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People were sick of Trek at that point
Correction, people were sick of ST: Enterprise.

An academy show, assuming that it was written and cast correctly (big assumption) would be great for the youth demographic. King Daniel Into Darkness mentioned the fantasy series Smallville, which has been on the air for a freaking decade, pulling decent if not blockbuster ratings.

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Old June 9 2013, 01:25 PM   #6
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King Daniel Into Darkness wrote: View Post
...The story eventually became the 2007 novel Star Trek Academy: Collision Course. I'd love to see something similar, re-rebooting or filling in Kirk's three years at the academy from XI and reusing costumes and sets from XI and ID. Like a cross between Star Trek and Smallville.
I'd rather see TNG academy, more aliens and better technology. Not to mention all that unexplored space left to work with.

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Creating a new tv series right after Enterprise got cancelled would have been the worst thing they could have done, no matter what the show was about.
I wasn't a big fan of Enterprise myself and I believe going back in time killed future series at that time. Going back to revamp the franchise send chills down my back whenever I hear "Continuing mission". To boldly go where we went 40 some years ago is more like it but they could make a jump back to the future after Abrams version raps up, just as they did after they were done with Shatner's run, making a 70 year jump to TNG's future.
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Old June 9 2013, 03:46 PM   #7
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People were sick of Trek at that point
Correction, people were sick of ST: Enterprise.
Which is too bad, if only because of season 4. I would like to have seen if a season 5 under Manny Coto could have turned the tide.
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Old June 9 2013, 05:51 PM   #8
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its a great idea, its a viable idea for a tv show, some planning will be needed to smooth it out and get the actors on board but it could work, as mentioned worf being there, i'd like him to be a mentor kind of character to starfleet student whos cultural background is not so good, i see the ideas good for a fan fiction novel series if not a tv series....
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Old June 9 2013, 06:12 PM   #9
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Re: Starfleet Academy Series

Look at the upcoming Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. TV series. If that is successful (as in a TV show following the lesser components of a larger universe), it might lend some credence to the idea of a Starfleet Academy show working.

That said, I think lot of posters here would be happy with a Star Trek TV channel, with all the series, movies and documentaries n repeat and new Star Trek shows in all genres being tossed in all the time.

...actually that's not a bad idea... TrekTV, anyone?
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Old June 9 2013, 06:15 PM   #10
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thats a fine idea, would give new people to star trek a chance to enjoy it...
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Old June 9 2013, 06:57 PM   #11
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I think after Enterprise no TV series would have revitalized the series.

Maybe after DS9 and Voyager a different series could have done it. Actually if Enterprise season 1 were more like season 4, it might have helped save the franchise.

But the series I would have liked to see produced was one that continued into the future, where after the Dominion War the Federation started reconsidering the policy of exploration and diplomacy, and people started giving away civil liberties, that focused on a group of former Starfleet officers who left the Federation because they believed in its original values.

Something like that would have been perfect for 2001.
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Old June 9 2013, 07:09 PM   #12
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i think anything is still possible now, we just need the perfect writers and producers and a good cast, that idea seems also like it could work, merge it with the premise of this topic and we got ourselves a decent plot, but we need a new starfleet academy on some other place like the luna colony as i suggested in my topic, but say also that the federation are hiding something, on those sort of lines...
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Old June 9 2013, 08:44 PM   #13
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People were sick of Trek at that point
Correction, people were sick of ST: Enterprise.

An academy show, assuming that it was written and cast correctly (big assumption) would be great for the youth demographic. King Daniel Into Darkness mentioned the fantasy series Smallville, which has been on the air for a freaking decade, pulling decent if not blockbuster ratings.

I wasn't.

I've a feeling the ratings on any post Enterprise show would make make the studio and network long for Enterprise's numbers. IIRC, every show after TNG had ratings lower than the previous one.
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Old June 9 2013, 08:49 PM   #14
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I really just want Star Trek that's set on a spaceship exploring the universe and crushing the bad guys (live-action or animated). I have no desire for a "teen angst" version.

That's the stop where I get off.
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Old June 9 2013, 10:12 PM   #15
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If they did, I hope they don't do a TNG style version , where the instructors are nice and polite, and the issues are all lightweight.

It would be cool to go with a gritty, boot camp, Full Metal Jacket style version.

I cant imagine sitting through 3 or more seasons of a moral or alien of the week episode like they used to do.

They probably wont anyway, at this point I think the studios are too paranoid to risk putting TNG style episodes on TV now.
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