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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

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Old June 7 2013, 10:00 PM   #16
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Re: Did the Klingons destroy Romulus in Abrams Star Trek?

Maybe when they reboot TNG they'll start with the destruction of Romulus by the Klingons. That'll be interesting.
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Old June 7 2013, 10:17 PM   #17
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Re: Did the Klingons destroy Romulus in Abrams Star Trek?

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If one doesn't believe in Hobus, the logic still stands. In which case the star we saw could have been the Romulan homestar!
Well, how do we know that the Romulan star isn't called "Hobus"? It sounds quite Romulany to me!
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Old June 7 2013, 10:26 PM   #18
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If one doesn't believe in Hobus, the logic still stands. In which case the star we saw could have been the Romulan homestar!
Well, how do we know that the Romulan star isn't called "Hobus"? It sounds quite Romulany to me!
The Hobus star is in the Beta Quadrant's Devron sector, 500 light-years from Romulus.
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Old June 7 2013, 10:29 PM   #19
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The Hobus star is in the Beta Quadrant's Devron sector, 500 light-years from Romulus.
Though the planet we saw blow up could have been the "real" Romulus.
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Old June 7 2013, 10:49 PM   #20
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Well, how do we know that the Romulan star isn't called "Hobus"? It sounds quite Romulany to me!
The Hobus star is in the Beta Quadrant's Devron sector, 500 light-years from Romulus.
As it was clearly stated in the movie?

(eta: please, don't say it was in the comic/novel/game. I know. I am just offering -jokingly- another interpretation.)
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Old June 8 2013, 07:50 PM   #21
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Re: Did the Klingons destroy Romulus in Abrams Star Trek?

Now, the House of Duras did have access to Soren's weapon. With the code aboard their Bird of Prey, they may have transmitted specs back to their base before being destroyed.

Me, a reboot might be to tie the JJ universe back into the prime universe.

If I am section 31, I have three goals.

Destroy Praxis and cripple the Klingons. Done--but other schemes
exposed.

Destroy Romulas--Done

Learn from Kirks missions and travel back to the past. Perhaps a stowaway on Narada
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Old June 9 2013, 12:18 AM   #22
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Now, the House of Duras did have access to Soren's weapon ...
Then why were the Duras sisters still hanging around in orbit?

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Old June 9 2013, 12:29 AM   #23
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it seemed to be the game rather than the prize that mattered...
And if the Klingons really did have the ability to blow up Hobus and destroy Romulus in one fell swoop, where's the "game" in that? Where's the battle? Klingons live for that. Destroying Romulus lickety-split would be too easy. There'd be no challenge in it.

Also, if they had the technology to destroy ONE planetary system, they'd be doing it all the time....
I don't know about that. I don't think there's much honor in blowing up an entire world, a world filled with people who have no stake in relations between Romulans and Klingons.
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Old June 9 2013, 01:33 AM   #24
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Then why were the Duras sisters still hanging around in orbit?
The title of "Destroyer of the Enterprise" would be respected by most.
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Old June 9 2013, 02:35 AM   #25
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Then why were the Duras sisters still hanging around in orbit?
The title of "Destroyer of the Enterprise" would be respected by most.
But not the monicker "Violators of the Khitomer Accords." The Duras sisters would have accomplished nothing by destroying the Enterprise except to drag the Klingons into a war with the Federation, hardly a smart move.
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Old June 9 2013, 04:01 AM   #26
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The Duras sisters would have accomplished nothing by destroying the Enterprise...
They'll at least get revenge for Picard gathering that fleet that foiled their plans. Revenge is a dish best served with Klingon disruptors.
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Old June 9 2013, 04:42 AM   #27
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They'll at least get revenge for Picard gathering that fleet that foiled their plans. Revenge is a dish best served with Klingon disruptors.
What good is revenge if you're dead? They would not have lasted a week following the destruction of the Enterprise, and their plans to gain control of the Klingon Empire would have been rendered moot.
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Old June 9 2013, 12:56 PM   #28
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...They would not have lasted a week following the destruction of the Enterprise, and their plans to gain control of the Klingon Empire would have been rendered moot.
With Soren's weapon and the only ship who knew about it out of the way, they could just blow up star after star of the people who stand against them.
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Old June 9 2013, 06:49 PM   #29
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Re: Did the Klingons destroy Romulus in Abrams Star Trek?

Moving this to the forum devoted to Abrams Trek...
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Old June 9 2013, 08:14 PM   #30
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Re: Did the Klingons destroy Romulus in Abrams Star Trek?

Belz... wrote:
as luck wuold have it, Nero emerges in 2233 right next to a big orange star.
A big orange star at the edge of Federation space near the Klingon border/KNZ. Not a star in Romulan territory.

Timo wrote:
Hey, since time travel in Trek usually involves going to the very same spot in space, only in a different time, odds are that the star we saw when George Kirk died would have been the very same that Spock belatedly extinguished in the future...
It wasn't. Red matter black hole time travel does not appear to work that way. Spock and Nero's departure point, Nero's arrival point, and Spock's arrival point are all distinct locations. We know from information given in the film that Spock's emergence point is in the Neutral Zone, and it was calculated by Nero, making it a different location from Nero's emergence point. Thus, by this fact alone we know that at least one of the time travelers did not end up in the same location as their departure point, which means that generally speaking it is not required that either of them did.
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