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Old June 8 2013, 07:14 PM   #46
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Re: J.J. Abrams enters The Twilight Zone

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Now that J.J. Abrams has taken control of Rod Serling's last un-produced screenplay, what classic sci-fi franchise would you like J.J. to set his eyes on next?

Star Trek (done.)

Star Wars (done.)

The Twilight Zone (being adapted)

The Six Million Dollar Man (pending?)

The Outer Limits (maybe?)

The Prisoner (on the horizon?)

http://entertainment.time.com/2013/0...th-j-j-abrams/
Next we know, he be rebooting Small Wonder, Out of this World, UFO, Lost in SPACE, Time Travel, Land of the Giants, Space 1999 and Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea.
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Old June 8 2013, 07:19 PM   #47
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Well, I'd like something slower, more offbeat and thoughtful than a lens-flare filled action movie which could be slotted alongside his Star Trek and Star Wars movies.

Abrams would be utterly wrong for Doctor Who, which should always be an alternative to the hugely budgeted American sci-fi franchises. Not made by the exact same people. Would be an utterly colossal mistake.
Pretty much every episode of Doctor Who is an action sci-fi film. I mean, one episode this season was called "Dinosaurs on a Spaceship!"
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Old June 8 2013, 07:39 PM   #48
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Pretty much every episode of Doctor Who is an action sci-fi film.


How is An Unearthly Child sci-fi action? Or The Daleks? Or the Edge of Destruction? The Aztecs? City of Death? Warrior's Gate?

Of the entire 26 seasons of the original run, only some of the UNIT stories come close to being considered action. And they're hardly frantic in pacing, tending to be slow, stagey 6-parters.

Did the previous episode, The Name of The Doctor, even have any action at all? No, and it didn't need to. Was fucking awesome regardless. Give me that over an Abrams/Orci/Kurtzman burger of blandness any day .

one episode this season was called "Dinosaurs on a Spaceship!"
When Doctor Who is fast-paced adventure, it is quirky and offbeat. There's a very large difference between Dinosaurs on a Spaceship and bloody Star Trek Into Darkness.
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Old June 8 2013, 08:19 PM   #49
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Well, I'd like something slower, more offbeat and thoughtful than a lens-flare filled action movie which could be slotted alongside his Star Trek and Star Wars movies.

Abrams would be utterly wrong for Doctor Who, which should always be an alternative to the hugely budgeted American sci-fi franchises. Not made by the exact same people. Would be an utterly colossal mistake.
Wow, you've seen the Abrams' Star Wars film? Hmmmm, Dalek's do have time travel.

(someone call UNIT or Torchwood, I'll watch him till they get here)
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Old June 8 2013, 08:24 PM   #50
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Wow, you've seen the Abrams' Star Wars film? Hmmmm, Dalek's do have time travel.

(someone call UNIT or Torchwood, I'll watch him till they get here)
Don't forget the Doctor Who film. He'll be perfect.
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Old June 8 2013, 10:04 PM   #51
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Pretty much every episode of Doctor Who is an action sci-fi film.


How is An Unearthly Child sci-fi action? Or The Daleks? Or the Edge of Destruction? The Aztecs? City of Death? Warrior's Gate?
I'm talking about the current series which is absolutely being pushed as action/adventure films in one hour formats. Moffat said so himself before the season started.
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Old June 9 2013, 12:20 AM   #52
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Best version of TZ ever? 80's.
Only if you've never actually watched the original. I have. No rehash beats stories written by Serling and his contemporaries. JJ isn't fit to get those writers coffee and doughnuts.
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Old June 9 2013, 12:46 AM   #53
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Best version of TZ ever? 80's.
Only if you've never actually watched the original. I have. No rehash beats stories written by Serling and his contemporaries. JJ isn't fit to get those writers coffee and doughnuts.
Good thing the story is by Sterling then.
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Old June 9 2013, 12:59 AM   #54
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The Stargate shows were flashy, fun, and mediocre. They came and went without making a real impact on anything, despite generating an inordinate number of hours of television.

I daresay that Abrams has never made anything as negligible as Stargate.
I'd agree that there were many episodes that were mediocre, but there were also many that were intriguing and nearly on the level of Star Trek for captivating story lines.

And then there's SG-U, which I take it you didn't see. Many SG-1 fans don't even consider it a Stargate series, only having borrowed the Stargate device for occasional use. And while I appreciate that perspective, I think it also shortens the merits of SG-U. It was a ground breaking kind of show that really should have had a solid 4~6 seasons.


I don't mind Abrams doing some Twilight Zone work, as it's a pretty open ended kind of thing. So much sci-fi we see today has a little bit of Twilight Zone in it anyway.

I wouldn't mind seeing JJ Abrams re-doing Lost In Space as a TV series. Fun, humorous, and campy sci-fi premise but with impressive special effects.
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Old June 9 2013, 01:29 AM   #55
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Old June 9 2013, 01:45 AM   #56
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And then there's SG-U, which I take it you didn't see. Many SG-1 fans don't even consider it a Stargate series, only having borrowed the Stargate device for occasional use. And while I appreciate that perspective, I think it also shortens the merits of SG-U. It was a ground breaking kind of show that really should have had a solid 4~6 seasons.
I considered SG-U the way a lot of Trek fans seem to have considered Enterprise: a misfired attempt to "freshen the brand" undertaken by people who'd been doing the thing so damned long that they couldn't actually do anything new.

So many things in SG-U looked like the producers and writers were just looking at their own past work and saying "this is so different," but by comparison with any current drama other than Stargate it was - yeah, mediocre.

SG-U wanted to be Moore's BSG, but it seemed to be the same writers as always and they just weren't good enough to improve the franchise no matter how much freedom they thought the new premise gave them.
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Old June 9 2013, 02:02 AM   #57
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I want Abrams to direct a Who movie now.

With a Lady Doctor.
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Old June 9 2013, 02:42 AM   #58
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I have a lot of faith in JJ to do this project. The only episode I ever saw of Felicity was the Twilight Zone homage he did. It was perfect. Black and white, the tone, the look, even the expressions on the actor's faces. Perfect. He can definitely do TZ justice. Or in this case Rod Serling's work.
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Old June 9 2013, 07:17 AM   #59
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Gary7 your avatar.. omg..
Someone managed to image stabilize a turbulence scene from TNG, essentially making the camera still and allowing you to see everybody moving themselves around like old TOS days. I couldn't resist capturing Riker, while everybody else is perfectly still.

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I considered SG-U the way a lot of Trek fans seem to have considered Enterprise: a misfired attempt to "freshen the brand" undertaken by people who'd been doing the thing so damned long that they couldn't actually do anything new.

So many things in SG-U looked like the producers and writers were just looking at their own past work and saying "this is so different," but by comparison with any current drama other than Stargate it was - yeah, mediocre.

SG-U wanted to be Moore's BSG, but it seemed to be the same writers as always and they just weren't good enough to improve the franchise no matter how much freedom they thought the new premise gave them.
Enterprise got off to a rocky start. I have to say I didn't start warming up to it until Season 3. If they'd gotten to that level in Season 2, I think they could have recaptured momentum and gone for a good solid 6 seasons.

By the same token, SG-U could have done the same, meaning get S1 content moving twice as fast and evolve into S2 quality midway through S1. Yes even in their best moments, I saw plenty of flaws. But there was a lot going right for it, enough that the potential was there to evolve it into something worth sustaining for at least 4+ seasons. It's a real shame they weren't given that chance. You have to watch the series more than once to get what I mean.
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I like the Stargate series, but I disagree about SGU. There was too much of the nuBSG-style dumbing down. Making the characters retarded so they can be all kewl and dark, the using of each other's bodies for sex, the forced conflicts-- they even managed to make General O'Neill boring. Every time I watched it, I got the impression that the producers were saying, "Why are you making us do this shit? Please let us go back to telling good, solid stories again."

I did see that TZ homage on Felicity and I remember liking it. But did Abrams actually do that, or was it the people he hired? As I said, his TV stuff is generally decent because of the people he hires. Although come to think of it, nuTrek was bad mostly because of the people he hired-- it was directed competently, but the script was Asylum-level nonsense.
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