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Old June 6 2013, 11:20 PM   #6286
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I loved the crystalline look of the original movie because it looked nothing like the kind of Flash Gordon-y future Krypton was typically presented as. It was technology so advanced that it has ceased to look like anything we could recognize as machinery or devices.

That being said, it's past time to move past it and try something else.
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Old June 7 2013, 12:31 AM   #6287
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Anyone who is trying to "find themself" is brooding and angsty.
Wrong. And it's long past time for you to stop reading anything that isn't an english text book or dictionary so that when you speak and use words, you're using them with their proper definitions.


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The whole movie supports that attitude.
The "whole movie" is about two hours long and it hasn't been released yet.


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Maybe you're just projecting your issues onto the film? I have had many clients who are searching to find themselves and for many of them it is often an exciting time and even an adventure as they uncover who they really are and who they want to be.

He's clearly projecting his own issues onto the film. He's at a transitional stage where the carefree childhood years have almost all faded away and he's staring down the future of moving out of the house, getting a job, not having mom and dad around to take care of his problems and growing up. He's terrified of the massive changes and the reality of adulthood that's coming. He's looking for solace and stability in the stuff of childhood.

He comforts himself thinking he's got all the answers when the reality is that he doesn't even know the questions.




I wasn't aware that Dr. Phil posted on Trekbbs. Actually, thats rude, I apologise. To Doctor Phil. Thats actually more like if Dr. Nick from the Simpson's tried to analyse someone. That last sentence in particular maybe the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I don't know everything, and I've never pretended that I did. That doesn't mean I can't look at stuff about a film and form an opinion. There is a lot I don't know, but I can spot a horrible superhero movie fairly easily. Making some weird statement about me based on my age and the fact that I'm an angry nerd who hates Man of Steel is just stupid. I can be an ass about stuff I hate, especially if its a type of thing that I like (like superheros, and superhero movies). I'll admit that I've gone on too long about this topic, and I'm about wound down about the movie. I posted about the last trailer pretty much because of the new stuff that seemed stupid, but even I know that there isn't much left for me to say. I can't say I won't post anymore (if a trailer until the movie comes out has something especially bad, I will probably mention it) but I will honestly try to not just keep coming into the thread to say the same complaints over and over. I'm still going to reply to posts, and I might post about newly revealed stuff I think is stupid, but I think I've said everything I can about the stuff I dislike about what has been revealed.


There isn't some kind of secret feelings of despair behind me being an angry nerd, but there is always someone who has to overanalyse stuff, I guess. The form this took is weird, like someone has been watching too many shows about psychiatrists (maybe a marathon of Dr. Phil?) and decided to try to do it. Or, maybe you could have a job related to psychology/mental health. I have absolutely no idea. If you don't, I'd stick to your day job. If you do...well, I'm not going to make any judgements about the quality of skills of someone who works in a field I know less than nothing about. The closest I've come to watching stuff about psychology is watching reruns of Fraiser. Still, the little paragraph with someone trying to describe me or who I am based off of age and hating a superhero movie was entertaining. I've never had that happen on a foum before, so if nothing else I got a memorably bizarre post about me, which is enough that I don't even find it annoying, just interesting.

But, just to be clear, Angsty/dark, to me, fits a person who is wandering around doing odd jobs to "find themselves", atleast in something like this.


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angst

a feeling of dread, anxiety, or anguish.

If he's wandering around doing odd jobs looking for himself, this seems to fit the reason for it. I'm not trying to say that people can't go "find themselves" without being brooding/angsty, I'm just saying that Clark seems to be doing that, especially because of what the general tone of a lot of the movie seems to be (which is the nolan Batman movies but with Superman and more explosions).

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Old June 7 2013, 12:41 AM   #6288
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If he's wandering around doing odd jobs looking for himself, this seems to fit the reason for it. I'm not trying to say that people can't go "find themselves" without being brooding/angsty, I'm just saying that Clark seems to be doing that, especially because of what the general tone of a lot of the movie seems to be (which is the nolan Batman movies but with Superman and more explosions).
And you can infer all that all that from a few quick shots of him on a fishing boat?

Those guys on Deadliest Catch are all so emo.
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Old June 7 2013, 12:43 AM   #6289
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If he's wandering around doing odd jobs looking for himself, this seems to fit the reason for it.
IOW you're not even pretending that you know what's going on in the movie with the character; you're just making up whatever sounds believable to you and judging a movie you haven't seen based on that.
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Old June 7 2013, 12:46 AM   #6290
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He's wandering around. He has a beard. He's doing odd jobs when there is no reason that he could possibly have to do that (atleast no good reason). To me, that screams of him dealing with some Nolan brand angst. Its Nolan's bruce Wayne with more manual labor. He's not just wandering because he likes to travel.
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Old June 7 2013, 12:47 AM   #6291
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The worst part is since he won't see the movie we'll still have to read these stupid posts after next week while we talk about what we liked and didn't like.
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Old June 7 2013, 12:50 AM   #6292
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Third Clip featuring Anje Traue (Faora) and Christopher Meloni (Colonel Hardy)!


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Old June 7 2013, 12:51 AM   #6293
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The worst part is since he won't see the movie we'll still have to read these stupid posts after next week while we talk about what we liked and didn't like.
I may talk about any more released footage, or mention reviews that seem to support my opinion, but honestly I'm running out of things to talk about anyway, and I am aware that its becoming more than pointless. Thats not to say I have nothing more to post (and I'm definately going to respond to posts) but after it comes out there will be less to post about, atleast when it comes to just things I'm seeing in the trailers.
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Old June 7 2013, 01:00 AM   #6294
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He's not just wandering because he likes to travel.


Clark has always loved to travel. It's his way of experiencing the human condition. It's impossible to understanding something alien without fully embracing and engaging in it.

He's literally walking (or hitchhiking) in humanity's shoes.

It's totally consistent with the history of the character. I thought you knew Superman?
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Old June 7 2013, 01:07 AM   #6295
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He's wandering around. He has a beard. He's doing odd jobs when there is no reason that he could possibly have to do that (atleast no good reason). To me, that screams of him dealing with some Nolan brand angst. Its Nolan's bruce Wayne with more manual labor. He's not just wandering because he likes to travel.
How do you know he is wandering around? The movie isn't out yet and you have not seen it.

There could be a very good reason they show him doing odd jobs. But since you haven't seen the movie and you have already made your mind up there can't be good reasons...that is nothing but circular logic. That shows poor reasoning skills.
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Old June 7 2013, 01:24 AM   #6296
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Well, lets see. In bearded hobo mode, he's been shown hitchhiking, on a fishing boat, and I think atleast one other odd job. Either he's wandering, or Smallville is a lot closer to the ocean than Kansas is in real life.
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Old June 7 2013, 01:28 AM   #6297
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Well, lets see. In bearded hobo mode, he's been shown hitchhiking, on a fishing boat, and I think atleast one other odd job. Either he's wandering, or Smallville is a lot closer to the ocean than Kansas is in real life.
So people with beads are hobos? I am putting you on a personal igmore list. Life is too freaking short to deal with this sophomoric closed mindedness.

Your trolling has taken up a majority of the focus of this thread recently. I am going to stop feeding you and wish others will follow suit.
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Old June 7 2013, 01:38 AM   #6298
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Well, lets see. In bearded hobo mode, he's been shown hitchhiking, on a fishing boat, and I think atleast one other odd job. Either he's wandering, or Smallville is a lot closer to the ocean than Kansas is in real life.
So people with beads are hobos? I am putting you on a personal igmore list. Life is too freaking short to deal with this sophomoric closed mindedness.

Your trolling has taken up a majority of the focus of this thread recently. I am going to stop feeding you and wish others will follow suit.
I just want to say that "Bearded hobo" is just a joke. I know he's not a hobo. I'm also not trolling, but I guess expressing a minority opinion is "trolling". I'll admit I've posted way too much about it (and a lot of negative comments about something could be called trolling) but I never posted to make people mad, I just express my opinions (not that I'm too surprised to not agree with a lot of people, but I'm just saying I'm not posting to piss people off, which is what I consider trolling).
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Old June 7 2013, 01:54 AM   #6299
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I am putting you on a personal ignore list. Life is too freaking short to deal with this sophomoric closed mindedness.

Your trolling has taken up a majority of the focus of this thread recently. I am going to stop feeding you and wish others will follow suit.
Yeah, that works.
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