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Old May 27 2013, 12:35 PM   #856
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Re: Janeway's Decision to Kill Tuvix

It's the circle of half life.
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Old May 27 2013, 12:46 PM   #857
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If the Bynars got their shit together, do you think they could join, invest themselves in the landscape, and then outvote the rest of the old school collective who might not be happy with the opinions of the new majority?

I imagine the Federation told the Bynars to breed. Just go to town on each other, outlaw contraception and then start mass cloning samples of Bynar's by the continent to...

The Borg wouldn't be stupid enough to assimilate something as terminally virile as that just becuase they're so dead sexy?

It's not like the Borg are %98 ego.

Oh.

My bad.
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Old May 27 2013, 01:18 PM   #858
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You made me look up the Bynars. My TNG lore is woeful. Though apparently Phlox mentions them.

My TNG data is just as bad.. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Old May 27 2013, 02:46 PM   #859
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I'm your Jack Ryan.

Making you do horribly disgusting deeds.

"Bynars"

Yuck.
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Old June 6 2013, 08:00 PM   #860
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I don't know if this has been mentioned already but, why not a lottery? Each "life" at stake gets one entry: one for Neelix, one for Tuvok and one for Tuvix. If Tuvix's name is drawn, he gets to remain Tuvix. If one of the others is drawn, the Doctor proceeds with his cure. A random solution for a random accident.
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Old June 6 2013, 08:02 PM   #861
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Vulcan Logician wrote: View Post
I don't know if this has been mentioned already but, why not a lottery? Each "life" at stake gets one entry: one for Neelix, one for Tuvok and one for Tuvix. If Tuvix's name is drawn, he gets to remain Tuvix. If one of the others is drawn, the Doctor proceeds with his cure. A random solution for a random accident.
I guess that's an eloquent solution until someone decides it's your life that's the stakes in a game.
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Old June 6 2013, 09:05 PM   #862
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R. Star wrote: View Post
Vulcan Logician wrote: View Post
I don't know if this has been mentioned already but, why not a lottery? Each "life" at stake gets one entry: one for Neelix, one for Tuvok and one for Tuvix. If Tuvix's name is drawn, he gets to remain Tuvix. If one of the others is drawn, the Doctor proceeds with his cure. A random solution for a random accident.
I guess that's an eloquent solution until someone decides it's your life that's the stakes in a game.
Well it's a little better than being taken to sickbay and forced into the procedure without a chance to save yourself. A 1 in 3 chance beats no chance at all.
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Old June 6 2013, 11:20 PM   #863
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Tuvix could have stuck a phaser to his face and said "Hold it! Next man makes a move, the n##### gets it! Drop it! Or I swear I'll blow this n#####'s head all over this Star Ship!"
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Old June 6 2013, 11:48 PM   #864
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They should have duplicated Tuvix using the transporter (like Kirk or Riker), and then killed the evil duplicate to get evil Tuvok and evil Neelix back, duplicate those again to get good Tuvok and good Neelix, and then kill evil Tuvok and evil Neelix.
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Old June 6 2013, 11:59 PM   #865
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Vulcan Logician wrote: View Post
R. Star wrote: View Post
Vulcan Logician wrote: View Post
I don't know if this has been mentioned already but, why not a lottery? Each "life" at stake gets one entry: one for Neelix, one for Tuvok and one for Tuvix. If Tuvix's name is drawn, he gets to remain Tuvix. If one of the others is drawn, the Doctor proceeds with his cure. A random solution for a random accident.
I guess that's an eloquent solution until someone decides it's your life that's the stakes in a game.
Well it's a little better than being taken to sickbay and forced into the procedure without a chance to save yourself. A 1 in 3 chance beats no chance at all.
That's like saying a fist across the jaw is better than a kick in the balls. While it's true, it doesn't really mean much.
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Old June 7 2013, 12:51 AM   #866
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Janeway: "So, Mr. Tuvix. I've decided to kill you save another life."
Tuvix: "*cough*Phage*cough* Sorry captain, I seem to have got something caught in my lung. I mean throat. *cough*Phage*cough*"
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Old June 7 2013, 01:29 AM   #867
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Vulcan Logician wrote: View Post
I don't know if this has been mentioned already but, why not a lottery? Each "life" at stake gets one entry: one for Neelix, one for Tuvok and one for Tuvix. If Tuvix's name is drawn, he gets to remain Tuvix. If one of the others is drawn, the Doctor proceeds with his cure. A random solution for a random accident.
JarodRussell wrote: View Post
They should have duplicated Tuvix using the transporter (like Kirk or Riker), and then killed the evil duplicate to get evil Tuvok and evil Neelix back, duplicate those again to get good Tuvok and good Neelix, and then kill evil Tuvok and evil Neelix.
Like everything it is all about the math.
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Old June 7 2013, 04:17 AM   #868
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They should have duplicated Tuvix using the transporter (like Kirk or Riker), and then killed the evil duplicate to get evil Tuvok and evil Neelix back, duplicate those again to get good Tuvok and good Neelix, and then kill evil Tuvok and evil Neelix.
i had the same idea.
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Old June 7 2013, 05:02 AM   #869
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Actually, I like JarrodRussell's solution, except for one flaw. Starfleet (or the federation) does not simply kill people because they are "evil". Creates more ethical problems than it solves. But maybe drop the excess evil duplicates on a nearby M-Class planet?

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Look, if you are facing certain death, someone offering you a 1 in 3 chance of survival might mean a great deal.
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Old June 7 2013, 05:55 AM   #870
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Could they have created holographic Tuvok & Neelix on the holodeck and asked them what they'd want?

Assuming the personality emulation was good enough, that is.
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