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Old June 5 2013, 03:06 AM   #76
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Re: Predict who will be cast as the 12th Doctor

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Rupert Grint! Come on!
No! I want Grint to make his sitcom, Super Clyde, with Stephen Fry!
I thought CBS already passed on the pilot. Is it still in consideration somewhere else?
Did they? Damn.
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Old June 5 2013, 03:24 AM   #77
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I'm hoping for anything other than another white Englishman as the Doctor. I'd be thrilled if we had a Scots Doctor, or a Welsh or Irish Doctor, or a black Doctor, or South Asian Doctor.
We had a Scottish doctor just a few years ago
No, we had a Scots actor. His Doctor still had an English accent.

What I want, first and foremost, is the best person for the job,
This presumes that there's some objective measurement of "best person for the job." But setting that question aside, I promise you, there are black, or South Asian, or female, or Scots, or what-have-you actors who are just as good for this role as the best white English male actor. It's just a matter of finding them.
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Old June 5 2013, 08:48 AM   #78
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And then what are you going to do? I mean, I agree with you there are probably lots of people in the categories you cite, but when you've found all these people you're still going to need prioritise one of them. do you take the Scotsman over the black man, the South Asian man over the Welsh woman? You'll always be prejudicing someone...

In a way I really envy the production team getting to choose a new Doctor, but I also pity them, because whatever they do they'll be wrong in some eyes.
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Old June 5 2013, 08:54 AM   #79
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Re: Predict who will be cast as the 12th Doctor

I predict it'll be that one guy for whom half the audience will be "Who?" and the other half "Him?"

I'll eat several pieces of a deep dish Supreme pizza if I'm wrong.
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Old June 5 2013, 09:32 AM   #80
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Except that at the end of Name of the Doctor, 11 is well aware of the HurtDoctor, and what his "crimes against Humanity" are, so, he's either a past incarnation or a Future incarnation he's already interacted with that we haven't seen yet, and therefore must be explained in The Anniversary Special and/or Christmas Special. I suppose The Anniversary Special could show us The 12th Doctor going into his own past, and itneracting with 10 in a story we've never seen before, but, again, he didn't do those things in the name of The Doctor
The other problem with this (as has been discussed before) - it is his horrible secret *before* he steps in the light.
Why couldn't this just be the one horrible secret that he found out ahead of time. We know The Doctor doesn't do "spoilers" but maybe this was the one time he looked ahead when he shouldn't have.
Of course the main factor against Hurt being the 12th Doctor is that he's 73!!
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Old June 5 2013, 11:31 AM   #81
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Re: Predict who will be cast as the 12th Doctor

So, stupid ideas aside online and in papers.

I do like the idea of Ben Whishaw though, but I think he is now too mainstream and well known, well to Bond fans at least. Couple of years again maybe, but he does have the look and confident yet slightly geeky manner.

The idea of rupert grint though, I'm feeling that, but in a few years maybe. I reckon he would be a good doctor.

Cumberbatch, no chance now, well, you never know, but with Sherlock and movies, I just can't see it.

To be fair, I like the idea of an unknown actor again. I like the surprise, especially in 09 when Smith was announced.
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Old June 5 2013, 11:43 AM   #82
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I think Whishaw might be good but he's (superficially at least) too similar to Smith.

I don’t think it’ll be an unknown this time (although Smith wasn’t really unknown, though I’d never seen him in anything myself—same for Tennant) I think it will be a name, or at least a face, people recognise, which is why Ben Daniels may be the one…Of course he might just be the Paterson Joseph of this particular casting. I’m still sure Paterson was a deliberate fake out to throw people off the scent when they were casting 11.
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Old June 5 2013, 08:40 PM   #83
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And then what are you going to do?
One of the things to remember about casting people is this: Much of the time, there is a point at which your casting choices become somewhat arbitrary. I've cast or helped cast theatrical productions, and often you hit a point where neither Actor A nor Actor B are truly "better" than one-another. You have to make a choice, so you go with your instinct, and it's probably a bit arbitrary.

If the Doctor Who team were to make an effort to find the best actors out there who are not white Englishmen, obviously they would have to pick one person, and at some point their choice may well be somewhat arbitrary. That's okay. The goals would be to find a great actor, and to break out of the mindset that one should see "white English male" as the "default" setting.
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Old June 5 2013, 08:41 PM   #84
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Re: Predict who will be cast as the 12th Doctor

Here's a choice out of left field - Pierce Brosnan. He's 60 years old, but looks good for his age. He doesn't appear to have a huge film career at this point, so maybe he'd be up to playing The Doctor.

Playing two iconic British characters would be pretty damn cool too.
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Old June 5 2013, 09:01 PM   #85
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Yeah, serious math fail all over the place. Also, 15 and at college? (congrats if so)

Most importantly though, dull and boring? Pfft, please; her Hermione stole the Potter movies (to be fair, Ron fans can have a fair complaint about her getting most of his good stuff, but that's not the point).
Yeah, it's a different system where I am. We have a three tier system where I live. I'm at the higher school, but we're called a collage and will soon become an academy. It's supposedly a good school. It covers loads of obscure subjects. At year 10, you can drop some subjects and choose some more obscure ones. For example, some of the more obscure subjects include public services, Business, Ethics, Motor Vehicle, Hair and Beauty, Construction, and all that as well as a lot of more usual subjects.

The thing is she's too up her arse nowadays. I mean come on, practically had everything handed to her on a plate since age eleven. She's big headed and all boring and too serious in interviews like Kyra Nightly and all that.

Funny you mention Ron Weasley, Rupert Grint would make a marvellous doctor.
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Old June 5 2013, 09:03 PM   #86
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Here's a choice out of left field - Pierce Brosnan. He's 60 years old, but looks good for his age. He doesn't appear to have a huge film career at this point, so maybe he'd be up to playing The Doctor.

Playing two iconic British characters would be pretty damn cool too.
Meh, he's still too action film for my liking.
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Old June 5 2013, 09:15 PM   #87
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Re: Predict who will be cast as the 12th Doctor

Well, Brosnan was Leonard Nimoy's choice to play the Doctor if he'd directed the Green Light movie during the 1990s. And he was the first choice to play Commander Maxil in Arc of Infinity, before Colin Baker got the role (with Patrick Stewart as the Castellan, and Peter Cushing as Borusa).
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Old June 5 2013, 09:39 PM   #88
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That was the nineties. :P I just can't imagine him play it well. My main choices are Idris Elba, Damien Molony, Jason Fleyming, Rupert Grint, and Joseph Morgan.
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Old June 5 2013, 09:53 PM   #89
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The shorter story length and and thus the faster pace format of the show just does not allow for an older doctor. The new series put a heavy focus on running around. Someone like John Hurt is not going to run around, if they threw in more 2 parters an older Doctor could work, but again, the current format is fast paced and geared towards a younger 21st century audience.

Be it a man or a woman, whoever is cast will be between 25 and 45 years old.
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Brosnan would surprise people in the role I think. He has that crooked, mischievous smile and that twinkle in his eye that made his Bond fun to watch, and he isn't untalented. It would be a different Doctor certainly, probably a bit more 3 and 6 than we've seen in recent incarnations.

You realize there is a thing called acting right? They film an episode over the course of a couple weeks and they aren't REALLY running around constantly. The running is like 5 feet into and out of frame most of the time. Some of you people act like anyone over 40 is practically crippled.
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