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Old February 11 2009, 08:09 PM   #151
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Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Constitution-Class Refit...

I call it the TOS Enterprise too
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Old March 1 2009, 10:20 PM   #152
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Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Constitution-Class Refit...

I like Deg3d's new design (http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=56599) but the thing that bugs me the most about the design is the thin neck that connects the saucer to the engineering section. It's got to be at most 3, 4 metres wide? IMO it needs to be at least twice as thick in order to be feasible.
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Old September 24 2011, 10:39 AM   #153
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Hi everyone,

I am new here, but I do have an Refit Mark 1 Constitution Class Enterprise I wanna share with everyone, and here it is: http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/t...4Ent1701-2.jpg

I started designing this in 2004, cause I wanted to see what the refit Enterprise would look like with a more original configuration feel to it.

Since I myself couldn't design or render it using software, or by drawing it; I asked a friend in 2009 if he could do it for me.

The main body, including the pylons; is taken from the refit configuration, while the bridge module is given a more mark 1 look to it, and the navigational deflector is taken from the 2009 Movie's Enterprise; yet the nacelles themselves are a modified version of the Mark 1's nacelles, so they would work with the new design.

As for the bridge's interior (not shown) I decided to use the helm and navigation console from the Star Trek 5 version of the refit Enterprise, as well as the railing, and as for the captain's chair; that was taken from the 09 Enterprise, as was the starchart hud, station consoles and the railing's color scheme.

Now, as for uniforms, I decided to use the ones from the 09 movie, but make the deltas and rank striping gold in color, while the phasers are taken from the Star Trek II-Star Trek VI movies, as were the tricorders.

This is what I mean: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SfXQJLwaBo

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Old September 24 2011, 05:43 PM   #154
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Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Constitution-Class Refit...

You would have been better off making your own thread instead of reviving a 2 year old dead thread. Not a bad little ship though.
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Old September 24 2011, 07:02 PM   #155
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Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Constitution-Class Refit...

Kal-el4 wrote: View Post
Hi everyone,

I am new here, but I do have an Refit Mark 1 Constitution Class Enterprise I wanna share with everyone, and here it is: http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/t...4Ent1701-2.jpg

I started designing this in 2004, cause I wanted to see what the refit Enterprise would look like with a more original configuration feel to it.

Since I myself couldn't design or render it using software, or by drawing it; I asked a friend in 2009 if he could do it for me.

The main body, including the pylons; is taken from the refit configuration, while the bridge module is given a more mark 1 look to it, and the navigational deflector is taken from the 2009 Movie's Enterprise; yet the nacelles themselves are a modified version of the Mark 1's nacelles, so they would work with the new design.

As for the bridge's interior (not shown) I decided to use the helm and navigation console from the Star Trek 5 version of the refit Enterprise, as well as the railing, and as for the captain's chair; that was taken from the 09 Enterprise, as was the starchart hud, station consoles and the railing's color scheme.

Now, as for uniforms, I decided to use the ones from the 09 movie, but make the deltas and rank striping gold in color, while the phasers are taken from the Star Trek II-Star Trek VI movies, as were the tricorders.

This is what I mean: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SfXQJLwaBo
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Old September 25 2011, 01:56 AM   #156
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thanks you guys, and kaiser: your artwork reminds me of the animation style used in dragonball z
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Old September 25 2011, 08:32 AM   #157
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thanks you guys, and kaiser: your artwork reminds me of the animation style used in dragonball z
what artwork?

my Avatar? That was done and taken from a art by a chinese artist i know

that Manga link? thats a real Manga from 1991 i scanned it so it would be preserved forever on the internet cus some reson i've yet to see any good fan art or fan fics from it =/

my ships? Mostly made from pre made ship parts ^__^
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Old June 4 2013, 05:39 AM   #158
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I would make it look just like Ricky Wallace's 2010 !701 Enterprise ~The Prime Alternative
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Old June 4 2013, 12:05 PM   #159
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Old June 5 2013, 07:01 PM   #160
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I think I would go in a very different direction.

OVERALL

The overall shape of the ship and its parts would be almost identical to the TOS Enterprise, but everything would be larger. It would be as if the Federation took the original ship, tore it completely apart, recycled its components and rebuilt a larger ship to replace it. I would also give it a new class name, like "Magna Carta" class or "Liberty" class, to continue in the same vein as the "Constitution" class.

AFT HULLS

I would start with the cylindrical nacelles, and the roughly cylindrical secondary hull, and make them all longer. The nacelle pylons would be a little bigger and fatter, but not back-swept like TMP. The big dish would not protrude from the front of the secondary hull, but also not be flush with it either. If it had to glow, it would glow more softly like the Enterprise-E's dish glowed.

I like the fatter and swoopier JJ Abrams "interconnecting dorsal" neck, but without all the little details. No torpedo banks in the neck. Secondary hull torpedo tubes would be located either in the base of the nacelle pylons or the bottom of the hull (bomb-bay-style). The hangar deck and service bay would be longer and larger, as the overall secondary hull would be substantially longer and larger. There would be a small micro-saucerette at the top of the connecting neck underneath the primary hull's impulse engines. This structure would be large enough to house a TNG-style "battle bridge" and "ready room" command deck, but would not be bulky enough to obstruct aesthetic views of the lower primary hull from the rear.

SAUCER

The saucer would be largely the same in overall shape as the TOS Enterprise, but the aft upper saucer dome would grow its own hanger deck. The impulse engines would be split to closely flank the saucer's flight deck. As with TOS, the upper and lower saucer domes would glow. The lower saucer would also house at least one torpedo tube. The phasers would be pure TNG, though not as visible. The saucer would also house small, retractable warp nacelles which could only be used after separation; they would typically be concealed. These would give the saucer limited independent deep space and combat capability.

The saucer hull would have a very similar texture to the TOS Enterprise, but it would have some more portholes. Just don't go overboard like TNG. The overall color of the ship would be more silvery like what Vektor did with his re-imagination. The "air force" style block lettering on the hull would be the same as TOS, and in the same general arrangement, except that flight deck fantails would include "ENTERPRISE".

I would want the upper saucer to be shaped much the same as the original, and also the shape of the outer saucer rim, but I'm not sure if I'd want the undercut around the inner-rim.

INTERIORS

The only major change overall would be to replace some of the colored wall and "support girder" structures with a more metallic finish. Color would be toned down but not eliminated. The overall bright look and texture of the interiors would remain largely the same, with some TNG influences. Control consoles would be only somewhat more sophisticated. Switches' levers and knobs would still be used, but so would touch-screens.

The TOS bridge is the best of all of them, in my opinion. I would want the same general arrangement and many of the same specifics. The refit bridge would be overall the same general design, but maybe a little larger. I like how the TOS consoles along the outer bridge ring flowed, and how the flat-panel displays flowed up from there, and how the overhead displays flowed (but were distinctive) from there.

Chairs for officers and crew would be made so that they would "attach" to the deck with the flick of a switch, but they could be easily decoupled from the deck for removal. Chairs would also include padded safety restraint armrests. I suppose the best (if somewhat cheesy) example of all of this would be the Excelsior bridge chairs as seen in TMP3. (Actually, the Excelsior bridge had many design cues that would've made a great refit Enterprise bridge.)

The Engine Room, Sickbay and crew quarters would've been much the same, but bigger and with a little more ENT-like metallic decor. The Jefferies Tubes would've been more like a cross between TOS and the TNG Enterprise. I'm not sure what amenities the crew would have, but civilian scientists, specialists, observers and dignitaries would be along for the ride. The whole TNG idea of families would not be part of the mix, though.

Hand devices and sidearms would be sleeker than TOS, with some TMP3 influence.

Interior corridors would be bright and functional, like TNG, but with a little metallic touch like ENT.

Uniforms would be a cross between TOS and DS9. From the time I first saw TOS, I thought the long-sleeve T-shirts and black trousers and boots looked so cool as well as being practical. The same for DS9 jumpsuits. I'm not sure if characters would use commbadges or hand-talkies.

Shuttlecraft would be sleeker and less bulky than the Vulcan courier. The Enterprise would carry at least two runabout-style ships, several shuttlecraft and some smaller fighter-like probecraft. There would also be greater use of robot probe-missiles and some robots for servicing the Enterprise. A landing party crew might be supplemented with a robot.

Overall crew complement would be at least 500.
Hey Wingsley,
I know this was a very old post... but given what you wrote above, I think you would be interested in checking out Ricky Wallace"s early 2010 models 1701 Enterprise, Shuttle, Drydock and even pods and workerbees > "The Prime Alternative"
project website > www.1701PrimeAlternative.com
Thread > http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=212419
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Old June 5 2013, 08:45 PM   #161
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The site appears to be down.
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Old June 5 2013, 09:14 PM   #162
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Old June 5 2013, 09:30 PM   #163
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The site appears to be down.
that's weird!
Try this link > http://madshipyard.com/ThePrimeAlternative/ ...
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Old June 9 2013, 10:24 PM   #164
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I'd like to see some non-Excelsior 1701-A ideas.
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You mean "B"?
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