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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: How do you feel about the Spock/Uhura pairing?
I LOVE them together! 29 46.77%
I generally think they’re okay together. 12 19.35%
Not my preference, but I don’t mind them together. 13 20.97%
I HATE them together. 8 12.90%
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Old June 4 2013, 06:04 PM   #286
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I HATE the relationship!!
I don't think its illegal in the entire federation to have a relationship with a supervised person.
I'm not certain that Spock ever directly supervised Uhura, no more than he directly supervised Chapel.
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Troi and Riker were in some sort of relationship.
AGAIN, it is about SUPERVISION. The first officer has direct supervision over all the bridge crew.

Troi was NOT a bridge crew member - and was in the Science/Medical section anyhow- and for most of the show was not even an officer AT ALL and was in fact a civilian (hence the non-federation outfits she wore)

I do however, have issues with the fact that she was the ship's councilor and in fact Riker had used her services. There were other councilor's onboard and it was never made clear if Riker (and Worf) stopped using her services "professionally". Perhaps an ethics violation is in order for her? But, it would not be a federation complaint...

Worf and Dax - again they were co-workers - not supervisory. BOTH were Lt. Commanders at the time their relationship started.

Paris and B'Elanna again, Tom bridge officer - B'Elanna ENGINEERING. And, AGAIN Tom did not supervise B'Elanna or visa versa as Tom's supervisor was Chakotay and B'Elanna was chief engineer - maybe reporting to Chakotay but probably directly to the captain as she was her department head.

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Old June 4 2013, 06:08 PM   #287
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^But the couple in "Balance of Terror"?
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Old June 4 2013, 06:13 PM   #288
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I HATE the relationship!!

First, in the federation it is against regulation to have a relationship with a person you supervise - EXACTLY the reason why Spock was sending Uhura to the Farragut. Then to have her blackmail her way onto the ship cheapens BOTH of them. And, had that actually happened, Spock would have immediately ended the relationship it would only be logical.

Relationships are not prohibited on a Star ship - a Spock / Chapel relationship is OK as he is not her direct supervisor.

And of course the line "have I not demonstrated exceptional oral sensitivity" sickens me. It turns Uhura into not much more than a prostitute who is sleeping her way to the top - instead of the reality that was presented in TOS that she was the best damn communications officer in the fleet. It so saddens me that Nichols worked so hard to portray Uhura as both an intelligent black woman - to have jj Abrams movies reverse all of that makes me very sad.
The "oral" bit - how quaint.

I recommend putting in some time reading the forum. You know: bring the shtick a little closer to current. [Edit: And mind your quote tags, please; you had your words and CommishSleer's reading as if they were written by the same person. Fixed now. - M']

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So if you speak Klingon AND you give good head the head cancels out the Klingon?

This seems unfair.
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Old June 5 2013, 12:01 AM   #289
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and Spock didn't even try to deny her logic because her competence or lack of wasn't in question there nor it was his reason for putting her on the Farragut. The reason was to avoid the appearance of favoritism, as he stated himself.
In short because she's his girlfriend he overcompensated but her argument was valid and he quickly corrected the mistake.
It's interesting that in that instance the one ruled by emotion and the one that brought their relationship in the topic was only HIM.
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the funniest bit is when in star trek into darkness Uhura is talking with the Klingons and Kirk wants to intervene but Spock is like:
if you interrupt her now, you will not only incur the wrath of the Klingons… but that of Lieutenant Uhura, as well.
he knows better
Totally!!! 100% agree!! I loved that they showed the development of the trio's friendship and closeness of Uhura with Kirk. I would also have enjoyed a domestic scene of Uhura and Spock playing some board game and Kirk dropping by because his three-some fell through (or whatever ) and just being bored out his mind by S/U until they take pity on him and invite him to play as well. Kirk's phone will go off in his pocket 3 times before Spock hears it and realizes that he's staying for them.

for the comics I suggest star trek ongoing #18 (that's the comic posted above) while for the novels you can read the Starfleet Academy novel series that also have some of their backstory. I have read them all and liked them.
Thank you so much for this link I will check it out and hopefully add to my library.
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Old June 5 2013, 02:04 AM   #290
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I still want the trio to be Kirk/Spock/McCoy. I want the bromance.
That's my only objection to the Uhura/Spock thing. I think they can still do both though.

The girl in the couple in 'Balance of Terror' had to move sections so that she was not under her husband's supervision.
I think romances between shipmates is inevitable as are workplace romances where I met my husband.
The problem between Spock/Uhura would be if Spock gave her undeserved good grades or refused to let her on dangerous missions. We can see in STID that Spock insisted Uhura be allowed on the dangerous mission and it was Kirk that objected.
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Old June 5 2013, 11:53 AM   #291
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I still want the trio to be Kirk/Spock/McCoy. I want the bromance.
That's my only objection to the Uhura/Spock thing. I think they can still do both though.
I've always felt the bromance in TOS and still do actually with the Reboot, but on the ship.

I could never imagine Bones hanging out with any of them outside of the ship. I've also always felt Bones is a lovely but grumbly older brother to both Spock and especially Kirk. From the original series I always thought Bones had a warm and friendly relationship with Uhura, but I just got the impression that he needed his space from them and they respectfully gave it to him. Karl U has definitely captured DeForest Kelley's Bones in the Reboot.

With Karl being much younger than DeForest, I can easily imagine Bones now accepting the invitations to S/U's dinners or pub crawls (I'm rather boring myself actually lol) just so that he can meet Kirk's latest 6ft tall, green haired, blue skinned conquest.
Bones will shake her hand politely and then totally embarrass everyone but Spock by requiring 4 repeats of her name before he complains it's too long and unpronounceable, so he'll just call her "Gia" for short..even-though it begins with an S...no offense.
Spock will abscond to the Kitchen and Uhura will pull Bones to the sofa to sit with her, as she narrowly avoids disaster when she notices him eyeing his favorite cushion on the love-seat being crushed as "Gia" arranges herself comfortably. Not as "under his breath," as Kirk, Uhura, and "Gia" would like, Bones will wonder why her skin is blue and just why it is Kirk couldn't just find him a nice, ordinary human!
Kirk, will finally let out the breath he's been holding in, when Uhura mercifully and none too gently tugs Bones into the kitchen with Spock as he puts the finishing touches to their meal.
Spock and Uhura will both stare at him until he exasperatedly yells, "What, he brings to dinner a blue skinned amazon and I get the stares?"

Spock stiffens up, Uhura cracks up, and Bones loosens up with a smile.

Meanwhile Kirk is fuming with "Gia" of all people, as he locates her clutch and sees her out the door. Kirk had apologized and offered to "speak to" Bones about his behavior, but "Gia" interrupted him by exclaiming that she didn't know he was inviting her to eat, an "out of this world gourmet meal" at his weird 1st officer's apartment with an added side dish of psycho uncle. He doubted Uhura would take too kindly to Gia's" parting message that,"they could "hook up" sometime if she wanted to send her a text."


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The problem between Spock/Uhura would be if Spock gave her undeserved good grades or refused to let her on dangerous missions. We can see in STID that Spock insisted Uhura be allowed on the dangerous mission and it was Kirk that objected.
Spock knows his love so well!
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Old June 5 2013, 12:02 PM   #292
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I watched the movie for the 6th time today. I thought it was especially touching how at the end when Spock's told he can be beamed down to Khan's location he looks to Uhura to see what her response is to him heading into that possibly deadly situation. Of course he's not asking permission, but he's saying "I know this effects you". And she gives him her blessing because she knows he cares. It's this subtlety that makes me so happy with the relationship.
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Old June 5 2013, 12:37 PM   #293
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I HATE the relationship!!

First, in the federation it is against regulation to have a relationship with a person you supervise - EXACTLY the reason why Spock was sending Uhura to the Farragut. Then to have her blackmail her way onto the ship cheapens BOTH of them. And, had that actually happened, Spock would have immediately ended the relationship it would only be logical.

Relationships are not prohibited on a Star ship - a Spock / Chapel relationship is OK as he is not her direct supervisor.

And of course the line "have I not demonstrated exceptional oral sensitivity" sickens me. It turns Uhura into not much more than a prostitute who is sleeping her way to the top - instead of the reality that was presented in TOS that she was the best damn communications officer in the fleet. It so saddens me that Nichols worked so hard to portray Uhura as both an intelligent black woman - to have jj Abrams movies reverse all of that makes me very sad.
The Federation doesn't actually exist : /

I dislike the Spock / Uhura relationship but that's just silly.
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Old June 5 2013, 07:05 PM   #294
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jjabrams wrote: View Post
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I HATE the relationship!!
I don't think its illegal in the entire federation to have a relationship with a supervised person.
I'm not certain that Spock ever directly supervised Uhura, no more than he directly supervised Chapel.
[...]
Troi and Riker were in some sort of relationship.
AGAIN, it is about SUPERVISION. The first officer has direct supervision over all the bridge crew.

Troi was NOT a bridge crew member - and was in the Science/Medical section anyhow- and for most of the show was not even an officer AT ALL and was in fact a civilian (hence the non-federation outfits she wore)

I do however, have issues with the fact that she was the ship's councilor and in fact Riker had used her services. There were other councilor's onboard and it was never made clear if Riker (and Worf) stopped using her services "professionally". Perhaps an ethics violation is in order for her? But, it would not be a federation complaint...

Worf and Dax - again they were co-workers - not supervisory. BOTH were Lt. Commanders at the time their relationship started.

Paris and B'Elanna again, Tom bridge officer - B'Elanna ENGINEERING. And, AGAIN Tom did not supervise B'Elanna or visa versa as Tom's supervisor was Chakotay and B'Elanna was chief engineer - maybe reporting to Chakotay but probably directly to the captain as she was her department head.
My understanding is that the First Officer is pretty much the supervisor of the whole ship with the captain as its boss.

And anyway, you still have Trip/T'Pol, and Odo/Kira, and probably some other people I'm not thinking about now. You can say that well they work in different departments, but really, those departments still report to the Captain and First Officer at the end of it all. Odo used to go over the daily security reports with Kira as she was the second in command at the station. That's part of how he developed his deep crush and love for her.

I think you are overreacting, but that's up to you.
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Old June 5 2013, 07:39 PM   #295
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I still want the trio to be Kirk/Spock/McCoy. I want the bromance.
That's my only objection to the Uhura/Spock thing. I think they can still do both though.

The girl in the couple in 'Balance of Terror' had to move sections so that she was not under her husband's supervision.
I think romances between shipmates is inevitable as are workplace romances where I met my husband.
they could have an amazing OT4 dynamic and in part they do in the end when they all combine their efforts and save Kirk, no? I wanted to kiss Bones when he told Kirk that him and Uhura deserved some credit for saving him because Kirk was all about thanking Spock for saving his life

The problem between Spock/Uhura would be if Spock gave her undeserved good grades or refused to let her on dangerous missions. We can see in STID that Spock insisted Uhura be allowed on the dangerous mission and it was Kirk that objected.
that's the reason why I love that scene.
When she asks Kirk to go outside alone and try to talk with the klingons the camera focuses on Spock's face and you can tell that he doesn't like the plan and the idea of her getting in danger BUT he doesn't stop her because he has faith she can do it and he trusts her and her abilities.
This ladies and gentlemen is a relationship where both parts are equal. She's a woman and she's his girlfriend but she also is an officer and he believes in her.
With all the complains about Uhura worrying about her boyfriend she actually did the same thing at the beginning when he went in that volcano. She was supportive the whole time, confident he could make it. She was worried but she tried to hide it well, it was only visible on her face when he was gone. But she never stopped him or tried to stop him.
The reason she was angry later wasn't because he was willing to risk his life for a mission, she was angry because from her pov it seemed like he had a death wish and he didn't care if he lived or died.

btw, this is one of my favorite scenes between them in the movie
http://youtu.be/_u-3ty4fS2Y


the whole teasing "you sure you don't want me to go instead?" after she had just finished putting the last piece of that suit on him and of course he doesn't understand she's joking "that would be highly illogical as I'm already outfitted" note: not illogical because the job is dangerous and you're my gal and I don't want you to get in danger. It's illogical because I'm already wearing this stupid thing.
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Old June 6 2013, 05:38 AM   #296
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The Spock and Uhura stuff in STID was awesome.
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Old June 6 2013, 11:36 AM   #297
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Malaika wrote: View Post
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I still want the trio to be Kirk/Spock/McCoy. I want the bromance.
That's my only objection to the Uhura/Spock thing. I think they can still do both though.

The girl in the couple in 'Balance of Terror' had to move sections so that she was not under her husband's supervision.
I think romances between shipmates is inevitable as are workplace romances where I met my husband.
they could have an amazing OT4 dynamic and in part they do in the end when they all combine their efforts and save Kirk, no?
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I wanted to kiss Bones when he told Kirk that him and Uhura deserved some credit for saving him because Kirk was all about thanking Spock for saving his life
That was a one of the few happy moments that I had ,after viewing STID the 1st time, was Bones line. After the earlier scene of Uhura being just as frightened for Bones as Kirk and by her comforting Kirk after Bones was safe, I knew they were all friends not just Spock/Kirk or Kirk/Bones and Spock/Uhura but all 4 are best friends who don't hesitate to meet up outside of work for fun.

Bones who is always so grumpy sounding is nothing but a softee and I think a S/U shipper lol actually took the time to include Uhura when he could have said "well I had something to do with it too' and no one would have batted an eye because he is the Dr and he worked fast to get Kirk placed on ice after he put 2 and 2 together about Khan's blood. For him to acknowledge Uhura's courage in beaming down onto a moving platform to neutralize Khan and bring him back with Spock was very powerful to me.

Upon my second viewing this feeling of OT4 was only reinforced and now that I will buy the DVD it is something that I will love seeing again and again.


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When she asks Kirk to go outside alone and try to talk with the klingons the camera focuses on Spock's face and you can tell that he doesn't like the plan and the idea of her getting in danger BUT he doesn't stop her because he has faith she can do it and he trusts her and her abilities.
This ladies and gentlemen is a relationship where both parts are equal. She's a woman and she's his girlfriend but she also is an officer and he believes in her.
With all the complains about Uhura worrying about her boyfriend she actually did the same thing at the beginning when he went in that volcano. She was supportive the whole time, confident he could make it. She was worried but she tried to hide it well, it was only visible on her face when he was gone. But she never stopped him or tried to stop him.
The reason she was angry later wasn't because he was willing to risk his life for a mission, she was angry because from her pov it seemed like he had a death wish and he didn't care if he lived or died.

btw, this is one of my favorite scenes between them in the movie
http://youtu.be/_u-3ty4fS2Y


the whole teasing "you sure you don't want me to go instead?" after she had just finished putting the last piece of that suit on him and of course he doesn't understand she's joking "that would be highly illogical as I'm already outfitted" note: not illogical because the job is dangerous and you're my gal and I don't want you to get in danger. It's illogical because I'm already wearing this stupid thing.
I really don't understand the complaints about Uhura being girly and unprofessional (my words) that I have read. I think she was professional through-out. Uhura by herself - without Spock is a very strong, confident, contained person as well as a very professional soldier. She has always been a strong person and would have always succeeded and excelled. With her scenes in STID I never got the sense that she was trying to hold him back and manipulate him with her feeling to get him to behave the way she wanted him to behave - I always got where she was coming from - it's sad for me to admit but I think because I couldn't see hand-holding I ignored all the other instances of real growth but I've come around and I wish others would give really give the relationship and chance so they can see all the nuances and realness that we see here in this thread and on the S/U loving tumblrs and such.
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Old June 6 2013, 11:41 AM   #298
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The Spock and Uhura stuff in STID was awesome.
You're very succinct @Admiral Buzzhill but would you feel as if you are beating a dead horse if I asked you to expand and share more of your opinion. Did you also see the movie on IMAX? Maybe you saw STID in 2D as I seem to be the only one who had trouble seeing what I wanted to see (physical touches) in that format.

Previous post of yours states they showed growth in STID and now the stuff was awesome....share more please
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Maybe you saw STID in 2D as I seem to be the only one who had trouble seeing what I wanted to see (physical touches) in that format.
Don't worry. Pon farr is coming.
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Maybe you saw STID in 2D as I seem to be the only one who had trouble seeing what I wanted to see (physical touches) in that format.
Don't worry. Pon farr is coming.
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