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Old June 4 2013, 06:03 PM   #136
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Looking at the various pieces of evidence from different sources, the engineering hull has a weapons bay, main shuttlebay with ancillary bays, main engineering, main cargo deck with a cargo conveyor and freight turbolifts, quarters and laboratories for the engineering crew, waste management system, and life support system. Now, the question is, how do these pieces fit in this hull?
Easy.
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Old June 4 2013, 09:34 PM   #137
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Looking at the various pieces of evidence from different sources, the engineering hull has a weapons bay, main shuttlebay with ancillary bays, main engineering, main cargo deck with a cargo conveyor and freight turbolifts, quarters and laboratories for the engineering crew, waste management system, and life support system. Now, the question is, how do these pieces fit in this hull?
As someone else had suggested elsewhere, perhaps -in this Universe- Starfleet has acquired some Time Lord technology!
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Old June 5 2013, 12:44 AM   #138
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Ugh.

I was not being sarcastic in my question. (I am incapable of being sarcastic.) I was asking a fact finding question. I have read threads on this site where fans attempted to reconstruct the layout of the older ships, especially the Enterprise, using what was given. I was thinking that my question would lead to this discussion.

As for the weapons bay thing, maybe, I should have been clearer. The weapons bay is on either side of the warp reactor core.On the old Enterprise, the warp reactor core is several decks down from the torpedo bays.
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Old June 5 2013, 02:18 AM   #139
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Ugh.

I was not being sarcastic in my question. (I am incapable of being sarcastic.) I was asking a fact finding question. I have read threads on this site where fans attempted to reconstruct the layout of the older ships, especially the Enterprise, using what was given. I was thinking that my question would lead to this discussion.

As for the weapons bay thing, maybe, I should have been clearer. The weapons bay is on either side of the warp reactor core.On the old Enterprise, the warp reactor core is several decks down from the torpedo bays.
The REACTOR is, yes. But the intermix chamber is little more than a thin bulkhead away from both the torpedo tubes and their magazines at any given time. The torpedo bay of Enterprise-A is only one deck away from the main engine room.

More to the point, we're not entirely sure where the engine room on the JJ Enterprise actually is, or where the weapons bay is for tat matter. I actually had a thought this morning that the side-mounted torpedo tubes might actually be in or around the location of those big windows that, on the TMP ship, would otherwise by the botanical garden (why would you stick a botanical garden next door to the reactor room?) That would mean the weapons bay on this ship is probably a couple of decks below and somewhat forward of the warp core.
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Old June 5 2013, 02:24 AM   #140
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Ugh.

I was not being sarcastic in my question. (I am incapable of being sarcastic.) I was asking a fact finding question. I have read threads on this site where fans attempted to reconstruct the layout of the older ships, especially the Enterprise, using what was given. I was thinking that my question would lead to this discussion.

As for the weapons bay thing, maybe, I should have been clearer. The weapons bay is on either side of the warp reactor core.On the old Enterprise, the warp reactor core is several decks down from the torpedo bays.
King Daniel made this helpful graphic of the Enteprise layout:

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Old June 5 2013, 02:54 AM   #141
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What's that water turbine do, again?
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Old June 5 2013, 02:57 AM   #142
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What's that water turbine do, again?
Circulates "inert reactant".

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Old June 5 2013, 05:07 AM   #143
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What's that water turbine do, again?
Moves the deuterium from the tanks to the dilithium regulation chamber?

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Deuterium_tank
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Old June 5 2013, 06:30 AM   #144
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If I remember correctly, the weapons bay was located in the upper secondary hull. When this movie comes out on blu-ray, I will be able to speak with more certainty.

In a nuclear reactor, turbines generate electricity. So, conceivable, the turbines aboard the Enterprise convert the warp energy into a form that can be used by the ship's systems.
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If I remember correctly, the weapons bay was located in the upper secondary hull. When this movie comes out on blu-ray, I will be able to speak with more certainty.
It's not upper. The camera shows the launch tubes opening closer to the underside of the ship; you can tell it's the underside because the impulse engine is visible in the background, as is one warp engine for an instant. That means the weapons bay is somewhere slightly forward and below the shuttle bay, which makes sense if those tubes were originally meant to launch probes, drones, mines or ODST drop po-- er, I mean, "escape pods" like the one Kirk took to Delta Vega.
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Old June 5 2013, 07:57 AM   #146
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Old June 5 2013, 07:42 PM   #147
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^ Now, if you could just get us a screencap of the opening of the launch tubes, I would be a happy man
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Ugh.

I was not being sarcastic in my question. (I am incapable of being sarcastic.) I was asking a fact finding question. I have read threads on this site where fans attempted to reconstruct the layout of the older ships, especially the Enterprise, using what was given. I was thinking that my question would lead to this discussion.

As for the weapons bay thing, maybe, I should have been clearer. The weapons bay is on either side of the warp reactor core.On the old Enterprise, the warp reactor core is several decks down from the torpedo bays.
King Daniel made this helpful graphic of the Enteprise layout:

While I have to admit that I still do not care for the Brewery used as an engine room (but I will live with it!), I thank King Daniel for this graphic (and for you reposting it, Locutus. The other issue I had with the engineering sets (especially the one seen in the 'chase scenes' over the catwalks that are suspended over the tops of the tanks) was that the secondary hull wasn't large enough to contain all these expansive areas. Carefully considering this graphic has made me finally appreciate how much larger the jjprise is, and that Engineering can contain such large sets (even if I still don't care for the sets themselves. Thank you, King Daniel!
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^ "Plaza"?
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That bit with the convenient void for things to dramatically fall down.
http://forums.luxology.com/topic.aspx?f=8&t=77509
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