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Old June 4 2013, 03:54 PM   #196
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Re: Star Trek III - The [Speculation Begins] (Spoilers)

If the studio decides that Cumberbatch has contributed significantly to STID's international box office they'll likely insist that Khan return in ST 3.
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Old June 4 2013, 06:34 PM   #197
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Does he have a Khantract?
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Old June 4 2013, 08:03 PM   #198
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I Khan't say.
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Old June 4 2013, 08:53 PM   #199
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Oh, Kahn it, people.
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Old June 4 2013, 10:58 PM   #200
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Star Trek I: Massive, technologically-advanced alien ship attacks Earth. Spock has emotional problems.
--Check.

Star Trek II: Kirk second guesses himself and makes a tactical blunder. Khan gets pissed and seeks revenge. Dr. Carol Marcus shows us how smart she is.
--Check.

Star Trek III: Dr. Marcus creates some device that can be used as a weapon. Rogue Klingon wants it. Enterprise blows up.
--Check?
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Old June 4 2013, 11:22 PM   #201
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Yeah, when you search for a specific pattern you're bound to find it.
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Old June 4 2013, 11:33 PM   #202
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I really do not want to see the Klingons as the focus in the next film. As background characters, fine. But the Klingons are the Trek race that has been most done to death.
That might actually be a reason to use them: they are familiar to even casual Trek viewers.
If these movies are going to focus around Kirk & Co. then the logical choice arethe Klingons. They were the major foil to the original crew, especially Kirk. I would hope to see Kor or Kang, or Koloth & the coming war with the Federation, then maybe an early attempt at peace. Spock Prime could lead that effort.

The other idea would be Q only because some have speculated Trelane was a member of the Continuum.
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Old June 4 2013, 11:37 PM   #203
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Oh, Kahn it, people.
You guys are really trying to open a Khan of worms aren't you. These little attempts at humor Borgs me to death.
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Old June 5 2013, 01:09 AM   #204
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You lose, CaptainDonovin. You used "Khan" for the same word as someone before you.

Do you want the consolation prize ?
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Old June 5 2013, 01:18 AM   #205
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You lose, CaptainDonovin. You used "Khan" for the same word as someone before you.

Do you want the Khansolation prize ?
Fixed it for you.
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Old June 5 2013, 06:21 AM   #206
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From time to time, I have watched Voyager with a J/7 twist, and not only does it make a lot of sense, but it makes the voyage so much more enjoyable and hilarious. I've also watched TOS from both perspectives when it comes to lady captains, and I think both views favoring and disfavoring the notion are legit.

Since I was a kid and first saw Turnabout Intruder, it was crystal clear to me from tone, expression and mannerisms in addition to the words said that the Kirk-era world of starship captains literally did not admit women. That was until sometime before Saratoga’s captain in 1986. As nutty as she was, I always doubted Janice studied “every single detail of the ship’s operation” for years merely to punish and torture Kirk. I don’t think it’s a leap to think she also really wanted to become a captain, and punishing and torturing Kirk was the best and most gratifying way to accomplish her whack-job objective.

If you take Janice’s statement quoted upthread literally and contextually, couple it with Cdre. Stone’s remark about not “not one man in a million” could command a starship and all the other exclusively male references to captains, and Kirk’s statement as man in woman’s body at the trial referring to Janice’s lack of “temperament”, and Janice considering command of a starship to be her “just due”, etc., it’s not unreasonable to conclude that 60s-era captains were all male, and Majel’s Number One had hit the glass ceiling.

You can also try real hard to pretend they had all sorts of lady captains back then, but whenever I’ve tried to watch TOS that way, it feels saccharine. I’ve seen the show too many times to know it ain’t so.

And, yeah, I missed checking for all the rank insignias of the extras when I’ve watched STID, but I’m going to bring my opera glasses next time instead of the 3D ones. There’s a good chance those ladies were blown to pieces in the attack, so not even sure they should be counted.

I’m with everyone in this thread who believes the Trek should be about diversity, a concept which is hopefully reflected with greater clarity in the next motion picture. A lady captain would be nice. A sane Capt. Janice Lester would be even niceeeer. I highly suspect she just needs a little lovin.

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Old June 5 2013, 10:04 AM   #207
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You lose, CaptainDonovin. You used "Khan" for the same word as someone before you.

Do you want the Khansolation prize ?
Fixed it for you.
Ah, dammit ! What a missed opportunity !
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Old June 5 2013, 06:37 PM   #208
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Well, Damon Lindelof has given an interview about the next movie, and he's being very uncharacteristically direct for Abrams & Company. He says, straight up, that they have a plan for the next movie and that it involves the Klingons. He also says that they would be "incredibly stupid" not to use Benedict Cumberbatch again. So I think it's fair to say at this point that the current plan is to see both Khan and the Klingons in the next film.

Lindelof also goes on to say that two of his favorite adversaries from the Trek universe are Q and the Borg and that he would like to see them. But he says that's farther down the line, "towards the end of our run on Star Trek." That statement, to me, implies two things: First, he sees their run on Trek extending beyond the three films and, second, that after they do the Klingons, they're likely to do Q and/or the Borg.

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Old June 5 2013, 06:39 PM   #209
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Holy crap who would be a good Q? Delancie is charismatic but does he have big screen chops?

And the Borg Queen?
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Old June 5 2013, 06:52 PM   #210
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No doubt too unoriginal, but the Borg could always assimilate Alice Eve into Locutus 2.0.
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