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Old June 4 2013, 07:27 AM   #1696
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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Pretty much everything is, relative to expectations. Hangover 3 is 97.7 million behind Hangover 2, and Man of Steel is now tracking 10 million lower than it was just a month ago.

World War Z, Lone Ranger, Pacific Rim and The Wolverine are all tracking weak. For whatever reason, Americans are just not going to the movies right now.

Into Darkness could end up being one of the few bright spots in a bad summer for Hollywood.
A bit off-topic, but the reason Americans are not going to the movies right now has to be because of two reasons.

First, for whatever reason, heroes that we are supposed to root for are shown as weak and unable in the first-impression-lasts-long advertisements. Look at ST-ID first poster: its the Enterprise falling to Earth after taking a bad beating. Pacific Rim: Jaeger Gypsy Danger broken in half and bowing down in defeat. Man of Steel: Superman.. bloody fucking SUPERMAN in handcuffs!!! Seriously, who the fuck wants to see weak pathetic heroes?

Second, the blockbuster movies are just crammed in hard with no space to breathe. If someone likes a movie they will go multiple times. However, if a new movie comes out just one week after a movie you liked its hard to justify going to see the same movie again vs. a new movie that also attracts your senses. Studios are just rushing to get first dollar but in the long run they are losing patrons.

Just my $0.02.
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Old June 4 2013, 08:41 AM   #1697
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If someone likes a movie they will go multiple times. However, if a new movie comes out just one week after a movie you liked its hard to justify going to see the same movie again vs. a new movie that also attracts your senses. Studios are just rushing to get first dollar but in the long run they are losing patrons.

Just my $0.02.
I have seen STID three times so far. I might go a fourth. Nothing else out at the moment interests me. Don't care for IM3, Man of Steel, or F&F.

I will usually just go and see the movie I like multiple times. I saw Prometheus twice last year, and Skyfall three times.
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Old June 4 2013, 01:44 PM   #1698
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The title of the film is the problem - and I don't mean the "Into Darkness" bit A lot of people are put off by Star Trek in general. It's just not "cool" like Star Wars and other similar franchises. Will take years and years of a more mainstream Trek to shake off that stigma. Maybe it never will.
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Old June 4 2013, 01:55 PM   #1699
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Pretty much everything is, relative to expectations. Hangover 3 is 97.7 million behind Hangover 2, and Man of Steel is now tracking 10 million lower than it was just a month ago.

World War Z, Lone Ranger, Pacific Rim and The Wolverine are all tracking weak. For whatever reason, Americans are just not going to the movies right now.

Into Darkness could end up being one of the few bright spots in a bad summer for Hollywood.
A bit off-topic, but the reason Americans are not going to the movies right now has to be because of two reasons.

First, for whatever reason, heroes that we are supposed to root for are shown as weak and unable in the first-impression-lasts-long advertisements. Look at ST-ID first poster: its the Enterprise falling to Earth after taking a bad beating. Pacific Rim: Jaeger Gypsy Danger broken in half and bowing down in defeat. Man of Steel: Superman.. bloody fucking SUPERMAN in handcuffs!!! Seriously, who the fuck wants to see weak pathetic heroes?

Second, the blockbuster movies are just crammed in hard with no space to breathe. If someone likes a movie they will go multiple times. However, if a new movie comes out just one week after a movie you liked its hard to justify going to see the same movie again vs. a new movie that also attracts your senses. Studios are just rushing to get first dollar but in the long run they are losing patrons.

Just my $0.02.
Your second point makes sense, the logjam of summer movies dispersing the summer movie budget. However the first seems like whimsical speculation based on some personal view of the human condition rather than any type of pattern analysis. I suppose someone could speculate that it depends on the moon and the tides or some astrological reason and have as much credence as your "patrons don't like movie posters with weak heros on them so they skip those films" theory.
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Old June 4 2013, 02:20 PM   #1700
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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A bit off-topic, but the reason Americans are not going to the movies right now has to be because of two reasons.
Again, the May domestic box office had the highest attendance in the last 10 years. The contention that Americans are going to the movies in lower numbers than usual so far this summer is inaccurate.
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Old June 4 2013, 02:30 PM   #1701
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Star Trek's considered one of the May success stories right now.
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Old June 4 2013, 04:06 PM   #1702
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Box office news

STID took fourth place in its fourth week, grossing an additional $2.9 million on its way to a $35 million total in the UK.

STID made a solid landing in China, with the film grossing $25.8 million in its first six days on release.
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Old June 4 2013, 04:15 PM   #1703
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^I contributed to that UK 2.9mill
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Old June 4 2013, 05:59 PM   #1704
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1.348.112 sold tickets for STID in Germany as of 2nd June. It's now officially more successful than ST (09) here.
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Old June 4 2013, 06:07 PM   #1705
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I wish we always had attendance numbers instead of or in addition to dollars. That way inflation wouldn't matter.
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Old June 4 2013, 06:22 PM   #1706
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Box office news

STID took fourth place in its fourth week, grossing an additional $2.9 million on its way to a $35 million total in the UK.

STID made a solid landing in China, with the film grossing $25.8 million in its first six days on release.
For people who know more about it than I...

If the numbers from China are out why aren't those numbers included on BOM? They have Hong Kong listed but not China.

Those China numbers a HUGE! According to BOM the number from China was 8.5 million for the entire run.
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Old June 4 2013, 06:25 PM   #1707
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For people who know more about it than I...

If the numbers from China are out why aren't those numbers included on BOM? They have Hong Kong listed but not China.
BOM keeps the foreign total up to date, but their updates for individual countries can lag behind by a matter of weeks.
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Old June 4 2013, 06:28 PM   #1708
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I wish we always had attendance numbers instead of or in addition to dollars. That way inflation wouldn't matter.
If inflation makes a difference when comparing ticket prices, then total population size, which also increases steadily over time, makes a difference when comparing attendance. Since I've been alive, the U.S. population has increased by over 50%!
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Old June 4 2013, 06:48 PM   #1709
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I wish we always had attendance numbers instead of or in addition to dollars. That way inflation wouldn't matter.
If inflation makes a difference when comparing ticket prices, then total population size, which also increases steadily over time, makes a difference when comparing attendance. Since I've been alive, the U.S. population has increased by over 50%!
But not since 2009.
Germany's population is shrinking - so: STID is even more successfulererer.
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Old June 4 2013, 06:51 PM   #1710
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If inflation makes a difference when comparing ticket prices, then total population size, which also increases steadily over time, makes a difference when comparing attendance. Since I've been alive, the U.S. population has increased by over 50%!
Yeah but what I want to know is how many tickets were sold.
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