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Old May 26 2013, 05:21 AM   #31
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UGH I planned my eating around GoT and it's not until next week now!

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Old May 26 2013, 07:43 AM   #32
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That's what I'm talking about. But, then who takes care of Mr. Sadist when he's done? He's far worse than Joffrey.
Joffrey tortured and killed an 'innocent' woman with a crossbow just because he could.

I'd say they're on about equal footing.
If I remember correctly that innocent woman beat her colleague to death. Of course Joffrey told her to do so, but still...

Not so sure about that fallen maester. He's traveling to Kings Landing with Jamie, right? So Joffrey and fallen maester may eventually meet and exchange some tips Poor Sansa et al. when they decide to get some hands-on experience.
Jofrey would had killed her if she did not do it.
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Old May 26 2013, 02:56 PM   #33
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Joffrey is really bad, but he's not Ramsey. He doesn't drag out the pain/torture for long periods of time, at least not as long as Ramsey to my knowledge. Ramsey skins people alive, and bit by bit, then chops off pieces one at a time. He's doing that to Theon in addition to starving him, psychologically torturing/brainwashing him, and making him live in his own filth.

Joffrey's evil, but he gets it over with, not because he's a better person, just because he bores quickly and wants to move on to the next thing (like a 5yr. old with a box of toys). So even though he's just as evil as Ramsey, he's not as bad. Very bad, just not quite as bad.
Yet. He's a child, if he lives as long as Ramsay he will end up equally as bad.
Maybe so. He's not that much younger than Ramsey, and I still think his personality is different. I don't think he'll ever have the attention span to do what Ramsey does. He might allow other people like Ramsey to have their way, though.
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Old June 2 2013, 05:16 PM   #34
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Just watched this last night, since I was away when it aired. Pretty good again - I notice the Hound has remembered he's not supposed to be Scottish...

Love Daario's line "my sword is yours, my life is yours, my heart is yours."

Joffrey's still really got it coming, but there was too little Tywin this week!
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Old June 2 2013, 06:03 PM   #35
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Maybe so. He's not that much younger than Ramsey, and I still think his personality is different. I don't think he'll ever have the attention span to do what Ramsey does. He might allow other people like Ramsey to have their way, though.
He's been tormenting Sansa since he gained the throne.

The only reason he's so restrained is because he's still scared of the people at large finding out how sick he is. He is still a kid. Once he grows a pair, he'll be as bad, if not worse, than Samwise 2.0. (Sorry, he's stuck with that name in my head just due to the physical similarities.)
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I really don't care for the changes they made to the Tyrion/Sansa wedding in this episode (apart from obvious production realities ones), but I've gotten used to the writers being unwilling to have Tyrion do anything remotely unheroic.
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I really don't care for the changes they made to the Tyrion/Sansa wedding in this episode (apart from obvious production realities ones), but I've gotten used to the writers being unwilling to have Tyrion do anything remotely unheroic.
It's been a while since I read the book, but with the exception of Sansa kneeling I can't think of any significant changes from the book. How was Tyrion unheroic in the books during the wedding?
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Old June 3 2013, 12:45 AM   #38
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I really don't care for the changes they made to the Tyrion/Sansa wedding in this episode (apart from obvious production realities ones), but I've gotten used to the writers being unwilling to have Tyrion do anything remotely unheroic.
I'm very interested to see what they do with some of Tyrion's book choices in the future in regards to this.
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I really don't care for the changes they made to the Tyrion/Sansa wedding in this episode (apart from obvious production realities ones), but I've gotten used to the writers being unwilling to have Tyrion do anything remotely unheroic.
It's been a while since I read the book, but with the exception of Sansa kneeling I can't think of any significant changes from the book. How was Tyrion unheroic in the books during the wedding?
1. Tyrion did not really object to marrying Sansa in the book. He was eager to be Lord of Winterfell, and hoped that he could make Sansa love him. Tywin did not order him to do it. He made an offer, and said that if Tyrion didn't want to he'd get somebody else.
2. On the wedding night, he had her strip naked and groped her before deciding not to go through with it (that part, obviously, was obviously never going to be filmed because of the actress' age, if nothing else).
3. Tyrion did not tell Sansa in advance in the books about the wedding. He allowed her to find out ten minutes before. The show changed that, as with all the other changes, to make Tyrion look sensitive and caring, and to play down Sansa's horror.
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