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Old June 3 2013, 09:12 PM   #16
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Re: Generations Concept Uniforms?

I think these would've worked a lot better as uniforms for TNG than Generations, with some tweaks to the collar.
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Old June 3 2013, 09:26 PM   #17
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Old June 3 2013, 09:27 PM   #18
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I am actually pleased that they didn't use these. As for DS9 uniforms being used on Voyager, when it wasn't a space station, I always figured in my own mind that Starfleet had several uniforms from which to choose, and it was captain's choice which uniform they used on a particular ship or station.
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Old June 3 2013, 09:41 PM   #19
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Re: Generations Concept Uniforms?

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Pretty much. They were absurdly busy.
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Old June 3 2013, 10:06 PM   #20
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Pretty much. They were absurdly busy.
Would your Nagel-Minimalist-Avatar give us insight to your design preferences sir?

I kid and tease, as I am a HUGE Nagel fan myself.

Side note, ever seen this image?
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Old June 3 2013, 11:46 PM   #21
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I remember seeing this concept art in a magazine around the time of the films release.
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Old June 4 2013, 12:24 AM   #22
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Re: Generations Concept Uniforms?

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I remember seeing this concept art in a magazine around the time of the films release.
I'm happy they didn't use those.
Resembles someone tucking the "skirt" of the TNG dress uniform into their pants and it looks ridiculous.
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Old June 4 2013, 03:14 PM   #23
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HOnestly, looking at these drawings, they look similar enough to the uniforms from TNG that I'd have to ask the question "Why bother?" I would guess someone was just trying to find ways to spend their extra budget for the movie.
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Old June 4 2013, 03:22 PM   #24
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Re: Generations Concept Uniforms?

I would guess that they were trying to incorporate some of the formal look of the "Monster Maroons" from the TOS movies, so general audiences would take the whole situation a little more seriously than a bunch of space people running around in baggy sweatshirts with raised collars.
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Old June 4 2013, 06:09 PM   #25
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Side note, ever seen this image?
Pretty cool. Have you seen this guy?
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Old June 5 2013, 06:07 PM   #26
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Well, I for one agree with their decision. I get what they were going for with the new design, but it seriously didn't work out. They just look kind of stupid. I don't blame them for taking one look at the dailies and nixing them.
I didn't say that I liked them, just that they should have used them since they paid for them. I think they look stupid too.

The Deep Space Nine uniforms had never been delineated as space station uniforms. In fact, we saw multiple space stations using the regular TNG style.
But the only space station personnel we saw were on TNG, before DS9 started production. It's obvious that the change in uniform design for DS9 was to delineate a station uniform as opposed to a ship uniform at that time. And I believe the uniforms were referred to as station uniforms in the ST Encyclopedia.
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Old June 5 2013, 08:08 PM   #27
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I didn't say that I liked them, just that they should have used them since they paid for them. I think they look stupid too.
Well, all I can say is that I completely disagree with this sentiment. I'm happy they did the best they could to address the problem instead of just having the movie look crappy.

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But the only space station personnel we saw were on TNG, before DS9 started production.
We saw space station personnel wearing TNG style uniforms in season 6's "Aquiel" after Deep Space Nine began.

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It's obvious that the change in uniform design for DS9 was to delineate a station uniform as opposed to a ship uniform at that time. And I believe the uniforms were referred to as station uniforms in the ST Encyclopedia.
It's not obvious at all. In fact the only evidence that points to that conclusion is the fact that we don't see them in use on starships until "Generations".

We also don't see them in use anywhere else until "Generations" except deep space nine, but it would be silly to think that following that logic they must only be in use on deep space nine and nowhere else.
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Old June 6 2013, 01:13 AM   #28
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They were probably just a new design that was being phased in. As DS9 was a spanking-new Starfleet acquisition, they got started with the new uniforms. It doesn't have to be any more complicated than that.
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Old June 6 2013, 01:26 AM   #29
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Re: Generations Concept Uniforms?

I like the idea of having different (but similar) uniforms for the cast of separate TV series - the darker jumpsuits in DS9 to distinguish the series from TNG when both were still on-air simultaneously, with the intention of having a different uniform (the abandoned GEN concept uniforms) in what became Voyager when that launched. Perfectly sound plan, there, and would've worked had the costume designers come up with a non-rubbish uniform for Generations.

Edit: could've been worse though, they could've used the All Good Things uniforms for GEN and VOY...

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Old June 6 2013, 03:05 AM   #30
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^I love the AGT uniform. It's pretty close to being my favorite Starfleet unform!
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